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Re: Hillary Would Have a Better Chance Than Obama
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2011, 08:13:33 PM »
I think we'll see record low turnout. I can't remember an election with less enthusiasm for any of the contenders.
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Re: Hillary Would Have a Better Chance Than Obama
« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2011, 08:14:43 PM »
Not a good photo:

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Re: Hillary Would Have a Better Chance Than Obama
« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2011, 08:41:22 PM »
I think we'll see record low turnout. I can't remember an election with less enthusiasm for any of the contenders.

A record low? I'm not sure about that but you might be right. We certainly won't see the enthusiasm we saw in 2008.
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Re: Hillary Would Have a Better Chance Than Obama
« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2011, 08:50:54 PM »
I think we'll see record low turnout. I can't remember an election with less enthusiasm for any of the contenders.

A record low? I'm not sure about that but you might be right. We certainly won't see the enthusiasm we saw in 2008.

I mean by percentage eligible, not in terms of raw numbers.
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Re: Hillary Would Have a Better Chance Than Obama
« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2011, 08:56:57 PM »
Who knows. I'm sure weather plays into it.

Here are the numbers, it seems a downward trend to me:

2010**    235,809,266    NA    90,682,968    37.8%
2008*    231,229,580    NA    132,618,580*    56.8
2006    220,600,000    135,889,600    80,588,000    37.1
2004    221,256,931    174,800,000    122,294,978    55.3
2002    215,473,000    150,990,598    79,830,119    37.0
2000    205,815,000    156,421,311    105,586,274    51.3
1998    200,929,000    141,850,558    73,117,022    36.4
1996    196,511,000    146,211,960    96,456,345    49.1
1994    193,650,000    130,292,822    75,105,860    38.8
1992    189,529,000    133,821,178    104,405,155    55.1
1990    185,812,000    121,105,630    67,859,189    36.5
1988    182,778,000    126,379,628    91,594,693    50.1
1986    178,566,000    118,399,984    64,991,128    36.4
1984    174,466,000    124,150,614    92,652,680    53.1
1982    169,938,000    110,671,225    67,615,576    39.8
1980    164,597,000    113,043,734    86,515,221    52.6
1978    158,373,000    103,291,265    58,917,938    37.2
1976    152,309,190    105,037,986    81,555,789    53.6
1974    146,336,000    96,199,0201    55,943,834    38.2
1972    140,776,000    97,328,541    77,718,554    55.2
1970    124,498,000    82,496,7472    58,014,338    46.6
1968    120,328,186    81,658,180    73,211,875    60.8
1966    116,132,000    76,288,2833    56,188,046    48.4
1964    114,090,000    73,715,818    70,644,592    61.9
1962    112,423,000    65,393,7514    53,141,227    47.3
1960    109,159,000    64,833,0965    68,838,204    63.1

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Re: Hillary Would Have a Better Chance Than Obama
« Reply #15 on: October 30, 2011, 09:43:16 AM »
bo is working very hard to buy as many votes as possible, free homes, free school, free medical......still he has lost the malleable middle and white america.....i believe the wild card is iran which will trump the economy.....the glariingly weak response of this govt after declaring an iranian terror plot within the us is revealing as to what our response will be in the face of a nuclear iran.....we can only hope that the israelis take them out sooner rather than later.....

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Re: Hillary Would Have a Better Chance Than Obama
« Reply #16 on: October 30, 2011, 09:46:48 AM »
bo is working very hard to buy as many votes as possible, free homes, free school, free medical......still he has lost the malleable middle and white america.....i believe the wild card is iran which will trump the economy.....the glariingly weak response of this govt after declaring an iranian terror plot within the us is revealing as to what our response will be in the face of a nuclear iran.....we can only hope that the israelis take them out sooner rather than later.....

Did you have a problem with it when George W. Bush ignored Iran and their nuclear program and decided to go after Iraq instead? Taking shots at Obama for Iran just means the Republicans are getting worried. It's like they don't know what to do without a war going on to scare the American people.
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Re: Hillary Would Have a Better Chance Than Obama
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2011, 12:05:46 PM »
bo is working very hard to buy as many votes as possible, free homes, free school, free medical......still he has lost the malleable middle and white america.....i believe the wild card is iran which will trump the economy.....the glariingly weak response of this govt after declaring an iranian terror plot within the us is revealing as to what our response will be in the face of a nuclear iran.....we can only hope that the israelis take them out sooner rather than later.....

Did you have a problem with it when George W. Bush ignored Iran and their nuclear program and decided to go after Iraq instead? Taking shots at Obama for Iran just means the Republicans are getting worried. It's like they don't know what to do without a war going on to scare the American people.
the short answer to your question is yes, i did criticize bush for his failings, not thoroughly addressing iran being one of many....are you a fan of history or do you find the context provided by history to be inconvenient.....let me help you out....bush was assailed for recognizing iran as part of an axis of evil, bush was attacked by the left for raising the alarm re iran's nuke program and was crippled by the left when wmd did not reveal itself as advertised in iraq and a fabricated nie report was produced in 2007.....regardless, bush is not the prez on this second day of november 2011....like it or not your boy is in charge.....to date his foreign policy of kissing the arse of thugs and mullahs has left our foreign policy in total disarray....we tell the iranian protesters that they are on their own, toss mubarack under the bus for the muslim brotherhood and military rule, attack a sovereign nation in violation of the constitution and attached federal law, the al qaeda flag now flying in libya and of course we all now know that syria is not libya......oh and let us not forget that after exposing what we have asserted to be an iranian plot to conduct assassinations/attacks within the us we have responded by, well by doing literally nothing at all.....unless the israelis act we will all witness the firing of an iranian nuke and then young friend all bets are off.....   

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Re: Hillary Would Have a Better Chance Than Obama
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2011, 12:25:54 PM »
Obama took out Osama Bin Laden. Obama took out Muammar Gadaffi. Bush took out a paper tiger Hussein. Meanwhile cozying up to the rest of the dictators in the Middle East. So you want to tell me who is the real President who is tough on the "thugs and mullahs"?

Bush got a bad reaction to his statements about Iran because everyone was afraid he was going to jump into that war without planning just like he did in Iraq. Also everyone knew that we could not handle Iran and Iraq at the same time. Believe me if we had not already been sucked into the mess that was Iraq people would have responded to his saber rattling very differently. And that is another thing that made this country look bad is Bush making threats and then doing nothing to back it up. He encouraged Iran and Ahmedinijad to go wild because they knew there was nothing the US was going to do about it. We were already stretched too thin.

Bush's foreign policy legacy will always be that he was the one to allow Iran to become nuclear capable.
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Re: Hillary Would Have a Better Chance Than Obama
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2011, 12:47:36 PM »
Obama took out Osama Bin Laden. Obama took out Muammar Gadaffi. Bush took out a paper tiger Hussein. Meanwhile cozying up to the rest of the dictators in the Middle East. So you want to tell me who is the real President who is tough on the "thugs and mullahs"?

Bush got a bad reaction to his statements about Iran because everyone was afraid he was going to jump into that war without planning just like he did in Iraq. Also everyone knew that we could not handle Iran and Iraq at the same time. Believe me if we had not already been sucked into the mess that was Iraq people would have responded to his saber rattling very differently. And that is another thing that made this country look bad is Bush making threats and then doing nothing to back it up. He encouraged Iran and Ahmedinijad to go wild because they knew there was nothing the US was going to do about it. We were already stretched too thin.

Bush's foreign policy legacy will always be that he was the one to allow Iran to become nuclear capable.

Seems you forgot that part of history where the Israeli's destroyed Iraq's Nuclear Reactor with an Airstrike in 1986. All with the Approval of Bilbo the Clown. You know the Same man who screwed up Somalia and then Allowed our Embassies to be attacked and did nothing. Also the Same man who allowed Saddam to be able to put himself into the postion of getting that Nuclear Reactor up and running.

Where do you get that the US could not have handled or taken on Iraq and Iran at the same time.? Must not be familiar with Conventional War tactics and strategy. Quite an absurd statement since we turned around and jumped into Afghanistan at the same time. While Secretly Sending Special OPs troops into Yemen.

The one thing Bush never gets credit for is fixing Bilbo's Blunders. Nor for putting the French in check and forcing them to Cooperate with All Intel Agencies. That would be you French Interpol. Who had and has LE's in other peoples Countries.
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