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Re: Obama Sells Bunker Busters to Israel
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2011, 01:08:19 PM »
Would you expect anything else, after all we are the largest arms dealer in the world.
Besides at this point work is work.
As long as they use them on each other why should I care anymore. Isreal has the right to defend itself, beside I always believed they had devine intervention, what happened God stopped protecting the Jews.     
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Re: Obama Sells Bunker Busters to Israel
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2011, 01:15:29 PM »
Would you expect anything else, after all we are the largest arms dealer in the world.
Besides at this point work is work.
As long as they use them on each other why should I care anymore. Isreal has the right to defend itself, beside I always believed they had devine intervention, what happened God stopped protecting the Jews.   

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Well we have strategic advantages that we need to maintain. If we sell the technology that increases the likelihood of that tech falling into enemy hands.

Also there is the issue that Israel may not always be operating in the best interests of the U.S., nor should they be. So if they decided to start using these weapons on their neighbors, the region would destabilize, oil prices would go through the roof, and our economy would become even more messed up than it is now. All of these actions impact the entire planet so I don't think even if they 'just use them on each other' it still impacts us. I wish it weren't the case.
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Re: Obama Sells Bunker Busters to Israel
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2011, 01:19:52 PM »
It is interesting to think about what the world's conflicts would look like with a substantially smaller arms market. During the Cold War, both the US and the USSR flooded the world with weaponry. There is a reason the AK-47 is the quintessential firearm of revolutionaries everywhere. The soviets flooded the market with them. They're everywhere. I guess if the demand is there the weapons will get to whoever wants them. Just a thought.
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Re: Obama Sells Bunker Busters to Israel
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2011, 01:26:58 PM »
That's a good point too.

Even though the U.S. is the largest arms seller, in our absence it is not as if other nations would stop buying weapons. They would just get them from someone else.
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Re: Obama Sells Bunker Busters to Israel
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2011, 01:31:10 PM »
That's a good point too.

Even though the U.S. is the largest arms seller, in our absence it is not as if other nations would stop buying weapons. They would just get them from someone else.

Yeah, it's doubtful. If someone wants weapons they could probably get them somehow. On the other hand, the market was flooded during the Cold War. I guess it's kind of unreasonable to expect all US military assistance to end but what if it was severely cut back and other powers (Russia, China) did the same?
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Re: Obama Sells Bunker Busters to Israel
« Reply #15 on: October 05, 2011, 01:35:09 PM »
That's a good point too.

Even though the U.S. is the largest arms seller, in our absence it is not as if other nations would stop buying weapons. They would just get them from someone else.

Yeah, it's doubtful. If someone wants weapons they could probably get them somehow. On the other hand, the market was flooded during the Cold War. I guess it's kind of unreasonable to expect all US military assistance to end but what if it was severely cut back and other powers (Russia, China) did the same?

Well in that case things would certainly be a lot different, but I just can't imagine why all three would cut way back on their arms exports and other military aid. It'd be great if it happened, don't get me wrong. Maybe if Ron Paul were elected here, but there'd still be the same Congress to deal with.
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Re: Obama Sells Bunker Busters to Israel
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2011, 01:38:07 PM »
That's a good point too.

Even though the U.S. is the largest arms seller, in our absence it is not as if other nations would stop buying weapons. They would just get them from someone else.

Yeah, it's doubtful. If someone wants weapons they could probably get them somehow. On the other hand, the market was flooded during the Cold War. I guess it's kind of unreasonable to expect all US military assistance to end but what if it was severely cut back and other powers (Russia, China) did the same?

Well in that case things would certainly be a lot different, but I just can't imagine why all three would cut way back on their arms exports and other military aid. It'd be great if it happened, don't get me wrong. Maybe if Ron Paul were elected here, but there'd still be the same Congress to deal with.

Oh, this is totally hypothetical although I think the arms market may have been smaller before WW2 than it was after.
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Re: Obama Sells Bunker Busters to Israel
« Reply #17 on: October 05, 2011, 01:48:58 PM »
Gotchya. That makes sense.
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Re: Obama Sells Bunker Busters to Israel
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2011, 03:54:59 PM »
Obama is trying to get the Jewish vote here in American. Isn't that obvious?

It won't help him! He's DONE!

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Re: Obama Sells Bunker Busters to Israel
« Reply #19 on: October 05, 2011, 04:08:13 PM »
Welcome to the board Sasquatch!

I agree that Obama is trying to get every vote he can at this point, Jewish or otherwise.
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