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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2011, 08:44:17 PM »
Driving tomorrow.

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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2011, 08:46:59 PM »
Alright, I'm going rustic on you - what the hell is homo economicus?

I could google it yeah, but I have to post whore a little so Conley stops whining.

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Homo economicus, or Economic human, is the concept in some economic theories of humans as rational and narrowly self-interested actors who have the ability to make judgments toward their subjectively defined ends.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_economicus

What I'm referring to is the fact that, IMO, our society reduces human existence to economic exchanges and we assume that human beings will always act in their own economic self interest.
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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2011, 08:48:09 PM »
Driving tomorrow.

I'm sitting on the floor now in agony wondering how many beers I can have before prematurely passing out.

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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2011, 08:58:28 PM »
Driving tomorrow.

I'm sitting on the floor now in agony wondering how many beers I can have before prematurely passing out.

Ouch...sitting on the floor after moving stuff all day does painful. We've all done the premature thing, can't be helped sometimes  ;) :D
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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2011, 08:59:15 PM »
Alright, I'm going rustic on you - what the hell is homo economicus?

I could google it yeah, but I have to post whore a little so Conley stops whining.

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Homo economicus, or Economic human, is the concept in some economic theories of humans as rational and narrowly self-interested actors who have the ability to make judgments toward their subjectively defined ends.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_economicus

What I'm referring to is the fact that, IMO, our society reduces human existence to economic exchanges and we assume that human beings will always act in their own economic self interest.


Interesting. I have no evidence and I doubt you could find any but I do feel that our society has gone in that direction over the last few generations.
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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2011, 09:00:52 PM »
We are a classically liberal society.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism
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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2011, 09:02:03 PM »
Alright, I'm going rustic on you - what the hell is homo economicus?

I could google it yeah, but I have to post whore a little so Conley stops whining.

 O0


 :D

Homo economicus, or Economic human, is the concept in some economic theories of humans as rational and narrowly self-interested actors who have the ability to make judgments toward their subjectively defined ends.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_economicus

What I'm referring to is the fact that, IMO, our society reduces human existence to economic exchanges and we assume that human beings will always act in their own economic self interest.


Interesting. I have no evidence and I doubt you could find any but I do feel that our society has gone in that direction over the last few generations.


My opinions on this are still forming. I wish I could give a better explanation of my POV.
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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2011, 09:03:17 PM »
Well the two of us have discussed at length our feelings on the materialistic nature of society and how that is the undoing of many a man.
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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2011, 09:13:21 PM »
Well the two of us have discussed at length our feelings on the materialistic nature of society and how that is the undoing of many a man.

That's exactly where I'm coming from.  :) I think that mentality permeates our entire society. It's not a matter of GOP vs. Democrats as if they offered different ideas about how people should live.
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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2011, 09:17:41 PM »
Well the two of us have discussed at length our feelings on the materialistic nature of society and how that is the undoing of many a man.

That's exactly where I'm coming from.  :) I think that mentality permeates our entire society. It's not a matter of GOP vs. Democrats as if they offered different ideas about how people should live.

Agreed...on one hand maybe the 'credit crisis' is a good thing as it might teach some what is truly important. We've talked about how neither one of us worries about money but one thing I do think about is money as it relates to health care. I could give a crap about buying shit but I want the best medicine available for me and my loved ones. You know I am a bit of a hypochondriac...and I'm pretty buzzed now to boot :D but money does matter with these kinds of things in my experience.
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