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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #20 on: November 18, 2011, 09:27:21 PM »
Well the two of us have discussed at length our feelings on the materialistic nature of society and how that is the undoing of many a man.

That's exactly where I'm coming from.  :) I think that mentality permeates our entire society. It's not a matter of GOP vs. Democrats as if they offered different ideas about how people should live.

Agreed...on one hand maybe the 'credit crisis' is a good thing as it might teach some what is truly important. We've talked about how neither one of us worries about money but one thing I do think about is money as it relates to health care. I could give a crap about buying shit but I want the best medicine available for me and my loved ones. You know I am a bit of a hypochondriac...and I'm pretty buzzed now to boot :D but money does matter with these kinds of things in my experience.

Honestly, I think the way we conceive of insurance is part of the problem. It's for disasters. It's not for every damn thing  that goes wrong. I can't remember the last time I went to the doctor. I've had the flu and I just weathered it. Granted, I am  Mister D.  8)

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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #21 on: November 18, 2011, 09:35:41 PM »
Well the two of us have discussed at length our feelings on the materialistic nature of society and how that is the undoing of many a man.

That's exactly where I'm coming from.  :) I think that mentality permeates our entire society. It's not a matter of GOP vs. Democrats as if they offered different ideas about how people should live.

Agreed...on one hand maybe the 'credit crisis' is a good thing as it might teach some what is truly important. We've talked about how neither one of us worries about money but one thing I do think about is money as it relates to health care. I could give a crap about buying shit but I want the best medicine available for me and my loved ones. You know I am a bit of a hypochondriac...and I'm pretty buzzed now to boot :D but money does matter with these kinds of things in my experience.

Honestly, I think the way we conceive of insurance is part of the problem. It's for disasters. It's not for every damn thing  that goes wrong. I can't remember the last time I went to the doctor. I've had the flu and I just weathered it. Granted, I am  Mister D.  8)

:D That's true...I'm getting pretty darned buzzed so I may have to resume some of these discussions tomorrow...wish there was a way to bookmark threads but I guess I can just rely on my memory :D
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« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2011, 09:46:49 PM »
How's that?  ;D
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« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2011, 09:47:51 PM »
I'm getting a little sleepy myself. Oh I can't wait to sleep in.  :)
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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2011, 11:58:59 PM »
Well the two of us have discussed at length our feelings on the materialistic nature of society and how that is the undoing of many a man.

That's exactly where I'm coming from.  :) I think that mentality permeates our entire society. It's not a matter of GOP vs. Democrats as if they offered different ideas about how people should live.

Agreed...on one hand maybe the 'credit crisis' is a good thing as it might teach some what is truly important. We've talked about how neither one of us worries about money but one thing I do think about is money as it relates to health care. I could give a crap about buying shit but I want the best medicine available for me and my loved ones. You know I am a bit of a hypochondriac...and I'm pretty buzzed now to boot :D but money does matter with these kinds of things in my experience.

Honestly, I think the way we conceive of insurance is part of the problem. It's for disasters. It's not for every damn thing  that goes wrong. I can't remember the last time I went to the doctor. I've had the flu and I just weathered it. Granted, I am  Mister D8)


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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #25 on: November 19, 2011, 08:55:21 AM »
Well the two of us have discussed at length our feelings on the materialistic nature of society and how that is the undoing of many a man.

That's exactly where I'm coming from.  :) I think that mentality permeates our entire society. It's not a matter of GOP vs. Democrats as if they offered different ideas about how people should live.

Agreed...on one hand maybe the 'credit crisis' is a good thing as it might teach some what is truly important. We've talked about how neither one of us worries about money but one thing I do think about is money as it relates to health care. I could give a crap about buying shit but I want the best medicine available for me and my loved ones. You know I am a bit of a hypochondriac...and I'm pretty buzzed now to boot :D but money does matter with these kinds of things in my experience.

Honestly, I think the way we conceive of insurance is part of the problem. It's for disasters. It's not for every damn thing  that goes wrong. I can't remember the last time I went to the doctor. I've had the flu and I just weathered it. Granted, I am  Mister D.  8)

:D Oh yeah, ok, so where I was going with this was that I agree that insurance should be for the big stuff. The thing is that for the really big stuff some of the places fight the charges and try to weasel out of paying the mega bills that you had insurance for in the first place. That's why I'd still want money as a back up. Also when they don't approve a procedure (not that I am for non-traditional medicine) or you want to use your own doctor outside of the system. I'm not saying I know much at all about the system thankfully but I read these horror stories in the press or hear about them second hand. I would rather be prepared for any risk that comes along. Money can replace just about anything but health is precious.
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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2011, 12:07:11 PM »
i think a liberal and a progressive are the same thing if you are talking about people in america today

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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2011, 01:15:58 PM »
i think a liberal and a progressive are the same thing if you are talking about people in america today

Agreed.
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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #28 on: November 19, 2011, 01:16:40 PM »
Both are working to make America better
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Re: What's the Difference Between a Liberal and a Progressive?
« Reply #29 on: November 19, 2011, 01:40:52 PM »
Both are working to make America better

Everyone wants a better America, greer. We disagree on how to make it better.
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