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« on: June 27, 2008, 05:42:58 PM » |
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Sparks are flying in the 2008 culture wars. The Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell, leader of the largest Methodist congregation in the country, launched a website yesterday titled "James Dobson Does Not Speak For Me." The site is a jab at Dobson, a stalwart of the religious right who this week called Sen. Barack Obama's interpretation of the Bible in a 2006 speech distorted "to fit [Obama's] own world view, his own confused theology." [unlike Dobson's interpretation of the Bible]Caldwell's site launched a day after Dobson's Focus on the Family radio program aired a harsh assessment of Obama's speech on faith and public policy and encourages readers to sign a statement declaring that Dobson does not represent them. "I think it's a crime and a shame that Senator Obama has had to explain the fact that he's a Christian," Caldwell said in a recent interview. "Criticize his politics. Criticize his stance on whatever, but don't question his faith. Never in the history of American politics has someone said that he is a Christian and someone came back to say, 'No you're not.'" If Rev. Caldwell's name sounds familiar, it may be because he is the same Rev. Caldwell who introduced President Bush at the 2000 Republican National Convention and last month officiated at Jenna Bush's wedding ceremony at the presidential ranch in Crawford. This election Caldwell is firmly in the Obama camp and doggedly trying to help the campaign bring other pastors and parishioners along. Caldwell's site encourages readers to sign this statement: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/27/politics/washingtonpost/main4214927.shtmloops |
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Bush goes bumbling along, grinning and spewing moronic one-liners, as though nobody understands what a colossal failure he has been. I fear to the depth of my being that John McCain is just like him. Jack Cafferty
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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2008, 06:01:18 PM » |
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2008, 06:23:03 PM » |
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Like I or most people care what rev. cladwell says. I bet you cared what Rev. Wright said though?  |
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2008, 06:41:16 PM » |
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Like I or most people care what rev. cladwell says. I bet you cared what Rev. Wright said though? Nice one BigLebowski. |
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Sometimes, when the news is on and showing the war, I wish bullets would rip out of our hi-def screens and shatter everything this institution has shoved down our throats.
Believing the world can be a better place is greater than the beliefs in all deities combined--times infinity.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2008, 07:03:12 PM » |
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Like I or most people care what rev. cladwell says. I bet you cared what Rev. Wright said though? I most certainly did care what Wright said. Wright was obama's pastor for 20 years. Big difference. I don't care what either Dodson or Caldwell say. I determine my vote and I will vote for who I choose. I will never vote for obama. My vote always has and always will go to John McCain. Patriot and war hero.  Anyone who would vote for obama, IMO, is a fool. |
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2008, 07:14:42 AM » |
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anyone who would vote or McCain, imho, is *confused* and have *lost their bearings*
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Bush goes bumbling along, grinning and spewing moronic one-liners, as though nobody understands what a colossal failure he has been. I fear to the depth of my being that John McCain is just like him. Jack Cafferty
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2008, 01:21:01 PM » |
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anyone who would vote or McCain, imho, is *confused* and have *lost their bearings*
Then maybe we both need help mentally? I didn't mean fool literally. You obama people are way too defensive, and sensitive, but if the shoe fits wear it.  |
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2008, 01:35:40 PM » |
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Sometimes, when the news is on and showing the war, I wish bullets would rip out of our hi-def screens and shatter everything this institution has shoved down our throats.
Believing the world can be a better place is greater than the beliefs in all deities combined--times infinity.
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2008, 02:04:31 PM » |
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Sparks are flying in the 2008 culture wars. The Rev. Kirbyjon Caldwell, leader of the largest Methodist congregation in the country, launched a website yesterday titled "James Dobson Does Not Speak For Me." The site is a jab at Dobson, a stalwart of the religious right who this week called Sen. Barack Obama's interpretation of the Bible in a 2006 speech distorted "to fit [Obama's] own world view, his own confused theology." [unlike Dobson's interpretation of the Bible]Caldwell's site launched a day after Dobson's Focus on the Family radio program aired a harsh assessment of Obama's speech on faith and public policy and encourages readers to sign a statement declaring that Dobson does not represent them. "I think it's a crime and a shame that Senator Obama has had to explain the fact that he's a Christian," Caldwell said in a recent interview. "Criticize his politics. Criticize his stance on whatever, but don't question his faith. Never in the history of American politics has someone said that he is a Christian and someone came back to say, 'No you're not.'" If Rev. Caldwell's name sounds familiar, it may be because he is the same Rev. Caldwell who introduced President Bush at the 2000 Republican National Convention and last month officiated at Jenna Bush's wedding ceremony at the presidential ranch in Crawford. This election Caldwell is firmly in the Obama camp and doggedly trying to help the campaign bring other pastors and parishioners along. Caldwell's site encourages readers to sign this statement: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/27/politics/washingtonpost/main4214927.shtmloops I wonder what Obama is offering Caldwell? I bet Obama wasn't giving Wright what he had promised and look what happened! |
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2008, 05:24:08 PM » |
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So... is McCain a Patriot because he is a War Hero, and Obama not because he's not?
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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2008, 06:24:01 PM » |
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So... is McCain a Patriot because he is a War Hero, and Obama not because he's not?
No McCain is a PATRIOT because he loves his country so much that he would offer up his own to defend this country and help other attain democratic freedom. McCain is a patriot because he and his father before him, and his father before him fought for this country. McCain is qualified to be the POTUS because he has paid his dues and has been a Senator since Obama was smokin weed and snorting coke. Thats why! |
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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2008, 07:08:29 PM » |
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So... is McCain a Patriot because he is a War Hero, and Obama not because he's not?
No McCain is a PATRIOT because he loves his country so much that he would offer up his own to defend this country and help other attain democratic freedom. McCain is a patriot because he and his father before him, and his father before him fought for this country. McCain is qualified to be the POTUS because he has paid his dues and has been a Senator since Obama was smokin weed and snorting coke. Thats why! Sorry, doesn't fly. What does his father's service and his grandfather's have to do with McCain's patriotism? My father was a Mennonite when WWII came to be, but changed his religious affiliations so that he could serve (proudly) in that War, as did his three brothers (my uncles). Does that make me patriotic? Or, does the fact that i was unable to serve because i was medically unfit for duty any less of an American... oops... gotta run. It's time for my coke fix. |
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2008, 10:46:32 AM » |
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So... is McCain a Patriot because he is a War Hero, and Obama not because he's not?
No McCain is a PATRIOT because he loves his country so much that he would offer up his own to defend this country and help other attain democratic freedom. McCain is a patriot because he and his father before him, and his father before him fought for this country. McCain is qualified to be the POTUS because he has paid his dues and has been a Senator since Obama was smokin weed and snorting coke. Thats why! Sorry, doesn't fly. What does his father's service and his grandfather's have to do with McCain's patriotism? My father was a Mennonite when WWII came to be, but changed his religious affiliations so that he could serve (proudly) in that War, as did his three brothers (my uncles). Does that make me patriotic? Or, does the fact that i was unable to serve because i was medically unfit for duty any less of an American... oops... gotta run. It's time for my coke fix. Are you serious? McCain is a grandson, son, and father of military men. Thats a long line of patriots. We know exactly where NObamas line stops...with his dead beat Muslim father. NObama is telling the same story that Clinton told when he was running....the only difference is that Clinton actually had experience. |
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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2008, 11:12:10 AM » |
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Actually, i am serious. But as long as you insist on using the term "Nobama" in place of Barack Obama's name, i need to question how serious you are.
Of course you still have not answered my question. Exactly why does the McCain family military history qualify him to serve in the office of the President of the United States?
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« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2008, 12:00:13 PM » |
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Actually, i am serious. But as long as you insist on using the term "Nobama" in place of Barack Obama's name, i need to question how serious you are.
Of course you still have not answered my question. Exactly why does the McCain family military history qualify him to serve in the office of the President of the United States?
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