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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2008, 05:16:54 PM »

If I had to choose between hillery or barrack for president it would be hillery. As a white, aging, baby boomer woman, I vote for my own.   Smiley
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« Reply #16 on: February 16, 2008, 05:07:58 PM »

IMP most politicians are calculating frauds. Name one who is not.  Smiley Hillery is no worse or better than the rest.   Smiley

This is nothing more than a typical cynical comment that cannot be proven or disproven. I think, maybe, 1% of politicians are calculating frauds. This is because I believe people only run for office to do good things, so I look at what they do in a different light.
You look at people who run for office as being power hungry, and so you think 99% of them are "calculating frauds."

Also, politics is supposed to be calulating, at least in theory. You are supposed to "calculate" what your constituents want before you vote. Slick Willy would fall into this category.

IMHO, Hill is one of these 1%. What happened after Ted and Caroline Kennedy genuinely endorsed Obama -- she went and got some Kennedy's of her own. In South Carolina, well, that speaks for itself. However, as someone who watches political news 12-16 hours a day, I have not seen someone who fits your definition of a "calculating fraud" as much as Hillary does.

And the argument that "she's a woman, so she has to play like men" is sexist to both genders. I am currently working on my Masters thesis about an objective way to measure a legislator's effective and all the studies show that women are most effective when they bring unique qualities to the table that only women can bring into the chamber.
(Are Women Legislators Less Effective? Alana Jeydel, Oregon State University)

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« Reply #17 on: February 16, 2008, 05:17:23 PM »

what unique quality do women bring to the legislature.  hillary is a lousy candidate, but then again so is obama.  if you were hiring for president nobody would hire them based upon their qualifications.
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« Reply #18 on: February 16, 2008, 06:38:27 PM »

And the argument that "she's a woman, so she has to play like men" is sexist to both genders. I am currently working on my Masters thesis about an objective way to measure a legislator's effective and all the studies show that women are most effective when they bring unique qualities to the table that only women can bring into the chamber.

Welcome Darkhorse. That sounds like an interesting topic .. a standard way to measure legislative effectiveness ... How are you definiting legislator - do your findings also apply to the executive position, i.e., president?
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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2008, 05:42:42 PM »

And the argument that "she's a woman, so she has to play like men" is sexist to both genders. I am currently working on my Masters thesis about an objective way to measure a legislator's effective and all the studies show that women are most effective when they bring unique qualities to the table that only women can bring into the chamber.

Welcome Darkhorse. That sounds like an interesting topic .. a standard way to measure legislative effectiveness ... How are you definiting legislator - do your findings also apply to the executive position, i.e., president?

the topic is absolutely inane.  the apparently appalling fact that one can pursue a higher ed degree based upon this tripe is only indicative of the sorry state of education within this country today.   
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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2008, 08:50:41 PM »

IMP most politicians are calculating frauds. Name one who is not.  Smiley Hillery is no worse or better than the rest.   Smiley

This is nothing more than a typical cynical comment that cannot be proven or disproven. I think, maybe, 1% of politicians are calculating frauds. This is because I believe people only run for office to do good things, so I look at what they do in a different light.
You look at people who run for office as being power hungry, and so you think 99% of them are "calculating frauds."

Also, politics is supposed to be calulating, at least in theory. You are supposed to "calculate" what your constituents want before you vote. Slick Willy would fall into this category.

IMHO, Hill is one of these 1%. What happened after Ted and Caroline Kennedy genuinely endorsed Obama -- she went and got some Kennedy's of her own. In South Carolina, well, that speaks for itself. However, as someone who watches political news 12-16 hours a day, I have not seen someone who fits your definition of a "calculating fraud" as much as Hillary does.

And the argument that "she's a woman, so she has to play like men" is sexist to both genders. I am currently working on my Masters thesis about an objective way to measure a legislator's effective and all the studies show that women are most effective when they bring unique qualities to the table that only women can bring into the chamber.
(Are Women Legislators Less Effective? Alana Jeydel, Oregon State University)

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 AS FOR CAROLINE AND TED KENNEDY, THEIR ENDORSMENT MEANS NOTHING TO ME. TED KENNEDY GOT OFF WITH MURDER IMO.  Smiley
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2008, 09:05:17 PM »

pittypat you may well be an aging old white woman, self avowed sexist etc....but first, last, always and in every way you remain an idiot.  the astonishing thing is that you seem to revel in it Huh Huh Huh
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« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2008, 05:00:25 PM »

hey grump, at least i'm honest about it. you are a dishonest idiot sexist.   Grin  and i would bet a big fat racist as well.  just my "feeling".   Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: February 19, 2008, 05:06:12 PM »

I also have the balls to say who i will vote for.   Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2008, 08:22:12 PM »

pittypat you are honestly an idiot.  on the basis of your posts on this site alone you should be barred from voting, owning a gun, driving a car or engaging in any activity recommended for people above the age of 12.
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« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2008, 01:37:30 AM »

pittypat you are honestly an idiot.  on the basis of your posts on this site alone you should be barred from voting, owning a gun, driving a car or engaging in any activity recommended for people above the age of 12.

 Well grump, I drive a veh paid for, own a gun, vote, retired from the police department, served in the military and engage in many activities recommended for people above the age of 12. I own my home as well as two other homes which I rent out, raised my children by myself and they are very sucessful professionals, have a large bank account was able to retire at age 56 . Thats the sort of idiot I am, what kind of idiot are you? Grin Grin
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« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2008, 07:56:15 AM »

the kind of idiot you are is one without a belief system, all over the map from day to day, minute to minute...
you portray yourself as a fool without the wherewithal to be embarrassed.  liberal society has created a world perfect for you, dominated by eeoc politically correct BS and rejecting actual performance.  maybe you were quite the soldier and police officer, based upon your expressions to date i have my doubts.  when you actually had to make a desicion, what did you do?  hold a vote in your head...   
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« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2008, 11:57:57 AM »

Have always voted, as i intend to do this fall. I will vote for whom i dammed well choose to which is more than you will likely do. Your a MORON!!!   Grin  Grin  Grin
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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2008, 12:01:01 PM »

Have always voted, as i intend to do this fall. I will vote for whom i dammed well choose to which is more than you will likely do. Your a MORON!!!   Grin  Grin  Grin

hahah you tell em pittypat! Smiley Smiley Smiley

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« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2008, 12:06:51 PM »

AND,I am a cert. surgical tech., had a boob job, was a stunt person in a movie, won $165,000 at a casino. What have you done grump? Maybe I need to put a pair of thong panties on your head, or in your big stupid mouth? Grin Roll Eyes
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