Is Obama an enlightened being?

[OswaldTheOsprey]

What an ugly subject.

Peter, regarding your dislike for change, I think you may be right.  But how are you to judge that this change will be bad?

What I can't stand is that people don't want to give it a chance.  It's like people are saying "Sit down and shut up.  You know nothing."

What's next, do away with elections because people are too "dumb" to elect their own leader?

I hate this state of mind people embrace.  It makes a country ugly.

Because I have a general distrust of all politicians.  Obama is all for change and the meaning of change keeps changing.  Basically we should vote for Obama and what we get will be a big surprise.  Or maybe not- I suspect that most of what Obama means by change is more government interference over our lives. 

I am not against change, but I am against fill-in-the-blank change for the sake of it.  I am for good public policy. 

I think that politics today is about the sound-bite.  And the sound-bite is nonsense, not policy.  I think that most voters are superficial and have practically no idea what the person they support will actually do. 

Has it ever been different? In 1950, a Florida senate candidate told rural voters that his opponent's sister was a thespian and that his opponent had once practiced celibacy. In a 1932 race in North Carolina said his opponent ate caviar or as he described it "fancy little Russian fish eggs" while he was not ashamed to eat "good old North Carolina hen eggs". There is no golden age of American politics.

OswaldTheOsprey

[pittypat65]

Well Peter,
              I don't know if I'd call it an Obama-gasm, I'd say it was one writer's
 attempt at trying to explain, Mr. Obama's apparent rock star status.
 I would like to point out that he IS a LEO --lol. Seriously, I'd say the piece is
 a keen perception of the current political landscape, and attempts to show that
 the negative lighting rod Bush and his party held, is working in reverse here.
 People of intelligence and common sense are galvanizing throughout the nation
 to a new positively charged lightning rod. Lets face it, Bush is a dummy and Cheney
 sits around plotting evil. Cheney has stated himself, his job was to think, the unthinkable.
             If you know anything of the laws of the universe, then you know, positive attracts
 positive and negative attracts negative. It seems the good + people are drawn and motivated
 to exorcise, the negative and inherently evil force which currently reside in the halls of power.
             We as Americans, do not want to be evil, and must leave the darkside behind.
 This is why, we see this kind of mass hysteria. Americans recognize and are going to seize
 the opportunity to effect change and put this nation back on the high road we should never
 have left.
 

lewby54:

I am an Obama supporter-I will vote for him in November just as I did in the Alabama primary back on Super Tuesday. Having said that, I see it more as right policy versus wrong policy than as good versus evil. Bush is wrong headed, IMHO, not evil. I agree with Obama but he is not a saint.

OswaldTheOsprey

Bush is not running for a third term dispite what you might believe. McCain is the Republican nominee and not Bush, McCain is nothing like Bush. I vote for McCain over Obama any day.

[OswaldTheOsprey]

Well Peter,
              I don't know if I'd call it an Obama-gasm, I'd say it was one writer's
 attempt at trying to explain, Mr. Obama's apparent rock star status.
 I would like to point out that he IS a LEO --lol. Seriously, I'd say the piece is
 a keen perception of the current political landscape, and attempts to show that
 the negative lighting rod Bush and his party held, is working in reverse here.
 People of intelligence and common sense are galvanizing throughout the nation
 to a new positively charged lightning rod. Lets face it, Bush is a dummy and Cheney
 sits around plotting evil. Cheney has stated himself, his job was to think, the unthinkable.
             If you know anything of the laws of the universe, then you know, positive attracts
 positive and negative attracts negative. It seems the good + people are drawn and motivated
 to exorcise, the negative and inherently evil force which currently reside in the halls of power.
             We as Americans, do not want to be evil, and must leave the darkside behind.
 This is why, we see this kind of mass hysteria. Americans recognize and are going to seize
 the opportunity to effect change and put this nation back on the high road we should never
 have left.
 

lewby54:

I am an Obama supporter-I will vote for him in November just as I did in the Alabama primary back on Super Tuesday. Having said that, I see it more as right policy versus wrong policy than as good versus evil. Bush is wrong headed, IMHO, not evil. I agree with Obama but he is not a saint.

OswaldTheOsprey

Bush is not running for a third term dispite what you might believe. McCain is the Republican nominee and not Bush, McCain is nothing like Bush. I vote for McCain over Obama any day.

Fine. I was merely pointing out that no one in politics is either an angel or a demon.

OswaldTheOsprey

[Peter1469]

What an ugly subject.

Peter, regarding your dislike for change, I think you may be right.  But how are you to judge that this change will be bad?

What I can't stand is that people don't want to give it a chance.  It's like people are saying "Sit down and shut up.  You know nothing."

What's next, do away with elections because people are too "dumb" to elect their own leader?

I hate this state of mind people embrace.  It makes a country ugly.

Because I have a general distrust of all politicians.  Obama is all for change and the meaning of change keeps changing.  Basically we should vote for Obama and what we get will be a big surprise.  Or maybe not- I suspect that most of what Obama means by change is more government interference over our lives. 

I am not against change, but I am against fill-in-the-blank change for the sake of it.  I am for good public policy. 

I think that politics today is about the sound-bite.  And the sound-bite is nonsense, not policy.  I think that most voters are superficial and have practically no idea what the person they support will actually do. 

Has it ever been different? In 1950, a Florida senate candidate told rural voters that his opponent's sister was a thespian and that his opponent had once practiced celibacy. In a 1932 race in North Carolina said his opponent ate caviar or as he described it "fancy little Russian fish eggs" while he was not ashamed to eat "good old North Carolina hen eggs". There is no golden age of American politics.

OswaldTheOsprey

No it has not been different in the past.  This is one reason that I support pushing legislation to the local level where at least you can talk to your representatives and participate in the process. 

[OswaldTheOsprey]

What an ugly subject.

Peter, regarding your dislike for change, I think you may be right.  But how are you to judge that this change will be bad?

What I can't stand is that people don't want to give it a chance.  It's like people are saying "Sit down and shut up.  You know nothing."

What's next, do away with elections because people are too "dumb" to elect their own leader?

I hate this state of mind people embrace.  It makes a country ugly.

Because I have a general distrust of all politicians.  Obama is all for change and the meaning of change keeps changing.  Basically we should vote for Obama and what we get will be a big surprise.  Or maybe not- I suspect that most of what Obama means by change is more government interference over our lives. 

I am not against change, but I am against fill-in-the-blank change for the sake of it.  I am for good public policy. 

I think that politics today is about the sound-bite.  And the sound-bite is nonsense, not policy.  I think that most voters are superficial and have practically no idea what the person they support will actually do. 

Has it ever been different? In 1950, a Florida senate candidate told rural voters that his opponent's sister was a thespian and that his opponent had once practiced celibacy. In a 1932 race in North Carolina said his opponent ate caviar or as he described it "fancy little Russian fish eggs" while he was not ashamed to eat "good old North Carolina hen eggs". There is no golden age of American politics.

OswaldTheOsprey

No it has not been different in the past.  This is one reason that I support pushing legislation to the local level where at least you can talk to your representatives and participate in the process. 

For all of the way Alabamians talk of states rights, all power here is concentrated in Montgomery. Many of us have wanted home rule for years, but the big agriculture and timber interests balk at giving local governments power to institute fair property taxation. Power gets concentrated no matter what level.

OswaldTheOsprey

[Peter1469]

True, but the lower the level of power, the more hands-on influence you can have. 

[OswaldTheOsprey]

True, but the lower the level of power, the more hands-on influence you can have. 

There is a line in Mel Gibson's "The Patriot" where he says, early in the film, "Why should I trade a tyrant 3,000 miles away for a tyrant three miles away?".

OswaldTheOsprey

[spunkloaf]

What an ugly subject.

Peter, regarding your dislike for change, I think you may be right.  But how are you to judge that this change will be bad?

What I can't stand is that people don't want to give it a chance.  It's like people are saying "Sit down and shut up.  You know nothing."

What's next, do away with elections because people are too "dumb" to elect their own leader?

I hate this state of mind people embrace.  It makes a country ugly.

Because I have a general distrust of all politicians.  Obama is all for change and the meaning of change keeps changing.  Basically we should vote for Obama and what we get will be a big surprise.  Or maybe not- I suspect that most of what Obama means by change is more government interference over our lives. 

I am not against change, but I am against fill-in-the-blank change for the sake of it.  I am for good public policy. 

I think that politics today is about the sound-bite.  And the sound-bite is nonsense, not policy.  I think that most voters are superficial and have practically no idea what the person they support will actually do. 

You have the most genuine of responses, and I agree with you.

The catch-22 of all this nonsense is that we need politicians, right?  Doesn't it suck?  

I have a problem with trusting the wealthy.  I don't think most are genuine.


BigSloppyNutsackWithWartsAndPussLeakingOutOfIt is a perfect example.  He (claims to be) a wealthy man.  But based upon his posts and his thoughts towards other humans, is he the kind of person who deserves that kind of power?  Something is not right.

McCain fights for people like BigTex.  And from what I hear, McCain is friends with people like BigTex.  To me, it's good enough reason to vote for the alternative.

I wish we lived in a world with no corruption.  But I guess the "corrupt" side feels that would just be boring.

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

these are two ridiculously bad candidates.  bo is totally unqualified and little mac is totally uninspiring.  both advocate govt solutions to problems created by the govt???  as iraq continues to stabilize it becomes less and less an issue for the voters.  the price at the pump will lead voter concerns.  notice i did not say energy policy.  peter has made a strong argument for conservatives not supporting little mac; he is not conservative and to send a clear message to the republican party or legitimize a third party.  still i believe the impact of scotus is a real concern, scotus being the lasting imprint of a presidency.  bo, for a pseudo constitutional law professor has demonstrated little respect or knowledge of the constitution.  little mac, given his gang of 14 role gives one reason to believe that he would negotiate conservative jurisprudence to its grave....in short we're screwed.  likely a bo win in the fall although this is not certain.  what is certain, bo will be a disaster of a president.

[spunkloaf]

these are two ridiculously bad candidates.  bo is totally unqualified and little mac is totally uninspiring.  both advocate govt solutions to problems created by the govt???  as iraq continues to stabilize it becomes less and less an issue for the voters.  the price at the pump will lead voter concerns.  notice i did not say energy policy.  peter has made a strong argument for conservatives not supporting little mac; he is not conservative and to send a clear message to the republican party or legitimize a third party.  still i believe the impact of scotus is a real concern, scotus being the lasting imprint of a presidency.  bo, for a pseudo constitutional law professor has demonstrated little respect or knowledge of the constitution.  little mac, given his gang of 14 role gives one reason to believe that he would negotiate conservative jurisprudence to its grave....in short we're screwed.  likely a bo win in the fall although this is not certain.  what is certain, bo will be a disaster of a president.

I agree with your analysis of what people are looking for in a president right now.
I guess I am too young to be able to judge whether a man is "qualified" for the presidency or not.  Like many other people, I trust that if he has made it this far, he should have some credibility in the areas that I am not sure about.
But, damn.  The charisma.  BO knows how to talk to people.  It will be an exciting time if he becomes president, but it will also be an uncertain time. People are prepared for that, and I am not sure if that is good or bad.  I don't think much bad can come from BO becoming POTUS.

[lewby54]

Well Peter,
              I don't know if I'd call it an Obama-gasm, I'd say it was one writer's
 attempt at trying to explain, Mr. Obama's apparent rock star status.
 I would like to point out that he IS a LEO --lol. Seriously, I'd say the piece is
 a keen perception of the current political landscape, and attempts to show that
 the negative lighting rod Bush and his party held, is working in reverse here.
 People of intelligence and common sense are galvanizing throughout the nation
 to a new positively charged lightning rod. Lets face it, Bush is a dummy and Cheney
 sits around plotting evil. Cheney has stated himself, his job was to think, the unthinkable.
             If you know anything of the laws of the universe, then you know, positive attracts
 positive and negative attracts negative. It seems the good + people are drawn and motivated
 to exorcise, the negative and inherently evil force which currently reside in the halls of power.
             We as Americans, do not want to be evil, and must leave the darkside behind.
 This is why, we see this kind of mass hysteria. Americans recognize and are going to seize
 the opportunity to effect change and put this nation back on the high road we should never
 have left.
 

lewby54:

I am an Obama supporter-I will vote for him in November just as I did in the Alabama primary back on Super Tuesday. Having said that, I see it more as right policy versus wrong policy than as good versus evil. Bush is wrong headed, IMHO, not evil. I agree with Obama but he is not a saint.

OswaldTheOsprey

Bush is not running for a third term dispite what you might believe. McCain is the Republican nominee and not Bush, McCain is nothing like Bush. I vote for McCain over Obama any day.

                   Pitty Pat, were you a Hillary supporter? At 71, we should looking at the veep. Can you imagine a Dan Quayle presidency? Eisenhower warned 50 years ago of the growing power of the military industrial complex. What do you think he meant by that? Bush has been their poster boy, the Republicans have found a new one. His name is McCain. How many election cycles are we to go through, where we end up with a president, the general populace didn't ask for? Obama's spirit trancesends race and color. He is also beholden to none other than the American people.
It really is time for change. Its funny, just about every thing said about Obama, could have been said about John F Kennedy in 1959.

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

Well Peter,
              I don't know if I'd call it an Obama-gasm, I'd say it was one writer's
 attempt at trying to explain, Mr. Obama's apparent rock star status.
 I would like to point out that he IS a LEO --lol. Seriously, I'd say the piece is
 a keen perception of the current political landscape, and attempts to show that
 the negative lighting rod Bush and his party held, is working in reverse here.
 People of intelligence and common sense are galvanizing throughout the nation
 to a new positively charged lightning rod. Lets face it, Bush is a dummy and Cheney
 sits around plotting evil. Cheney has stated himself, his job was to think, the unthinkable.
             If you know anything of the laws of the universe, then you know, positive attracts
 positive and negative attracts negative. It seems the good + people are drawn and motivated
 to exorcise, the negative and inherently evil force which currently reside in the halls of power.
             We as Americans, do not want to be evil, and must leave the darkside behind.
 This is why, we see this kind of mass hysteria. Americans recognize and are going to seize
 the opportunity to effect change and put this nation back on the high road we should never
 have left.
 

lewby54:

I am an Obama supporter-I will vote for him in November just as I did in the Alabama primary back on Super Tuesday. Having said that, I see it more as right policy versus wrong policy than as good versus evil. Bush is wrong headed, IMHO, not evil. I agree with Obama but he is not a saint.

OswaldTheOsprey

Bush is not running for a third term dispite what you might believe. McCain is the Republican nominee and not Bush, McCain is nothing like Bush. I vote for McCain over Obama any day.

                   Pitty Pat, were you a Hillary supporter? At 71, we should looking at the veep. Can you imagine a Dan Quayle presidency? Eisenhower warned 50 years ago of the growing power of the military industrial complex. What do you think he meant by that? Bush has been their poster boy, the Republicans have found a new one. His name is McCain. How many election cycles are we to go through, where we end up with a president, the general populace didn't ask for? Obama's spirit trancesends race and color. He is also beholden to none other than the American people.
It really is time for change. Its funny, just about every thing said about Obama, could have been said about John F Kennedy in 1959.

sophomoric and delusional. 

[Peter1469]

Obama’s words symbolize CHANGE.  Obama’s spirit as seen through his actions demonstrates the same old dirty politics- perhaps we can call it anti-change.   

[gorknoids]

As "enlightened" as Cindy Sheehan.  Just another retarded socialist puppet.

[trex]

Well Peter,
              I don't know if I'd call it an Obama-gasm, I'd say it was one writer's
 attempt at trying to explain, Mr. Obama's apparent rock star status.
 I would like to point out that he IS a LEO --lol. Seriously, I'd say the piece is
 a keen perception of the current political landscape, and attempts to show that
 the negative lighting rod Bush and his party held, is working in reverse here.
 People of intelligence and common sense are galvanizing throughout the nation
 to a new positively charged lightning rod. Lets face it, Bush is a dummy and Cheney
 sits around plotting evil. Cheney has stated himself, his job was to think, the unthinkable.
             If you know anything of the laws of the universe, then you know, positive attracts
 positive and negative attracts negative. It seems the good + people are drawn and motivated
 to exorcise, the negative and inherently evil force which currently reside in the halls of power.
             We as Americans, do not want to be evil, and must leave the darkside behind.
 This is why, we see this kind of mass hysteria. Americans recognize and are going to seize
 the opportunity to effect change and put this nation back on the high road we should never
 have left.
 

lewby54:

I am an Obama supporter-I will vote for him in November just as I did in the Alabama primary back on Super Tuesday. Having said that, I see it more as right policy versus wrong policy than as good versus evil. Bush is wrong headed, IMHO, not evil. I agree with Obama but he is not a saint.

OswaldTheOsprey

Bush is not running for a third term dispite what you might believe. McCain is the Republican nominee and not Bush, McCain is nothing like Bush. I vote for McCain over Obama any day.

                   Pitty Pat, were you a Hillary supporter? At 71, we should looking at the veep. Can you imagine a Dan Quayle presidency? Eisenhower warned 50 years ago of the growing power of the military industrial complex. What do you think he meant by that? Bush has been their poster boy, the Republicans have found a new one. His name is McCain. How many election cycles are we to go through, where we end up with a president, the general populace didn't ask for? Obama's spirit trancesends race and color. He is also beholden to none other than the American people.
It really is time for change. Its funny, just about every thing said about Obama, could have been said about John F Kennedy in 1959.

Thats funny...Obama is a puppet running by default.......he is another Bill Clinton except Bill actually had political power.  He is just the same as the rest of them....McCain is at least a veteran who we know loves his country.....and unlike Michelle he has loved it his whole life.

Cant wait for all of this Obama crap to be over!