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« on: July 25, 2008, 11:15:54 PM »

Nothing says "I support the troops" more than putting tax-cuts for the have-mores ahead of the troops.


MCCAIN REPEATEDLY VOTED AGAINST, AND OBAMA REPEATEDLY VOTED FOR, INCREASED FUNDING FOR MILITARY EQUIPMENT FOR OUR TROOPS

Obama Voted For And McCain Voted Against $360 Million for Armored Vehicles for Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. In 2005, Obama voted for and McCain voted against providing $360.8 million for armored tactical wheeled vehicles for units deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan and $5 million to establish ballistics engineering research centers at two major research institutions. The measure against which McCain voted also required such centers to advance knowledge and application of ballistics materials and procedures to improve the safety of land-based military vehicles. [HR 2863, Vote 248, 10/5/05, Passed 56-43: R 13-42 D 42-1 I 1-0]

Obama Voted TWICE Against And McCain Voted TWICE For Keeping Capital Gains Tax Cuts, Rather Than Using the Savings to Replace or Repair Equipment for Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. In 2005, Obama voted for and McCain voted against repealing the extension of capital gains tax cuts and use the savings to repair, rehabilitate or replace the equipment used by the Army and Marine Corps in Afghanistan & Iraq.  A week later, prior to the issuance of a conference report regarding that measure, Obama voted for and McCain voted against a measure to "insist that conference report include funding to strengthen America’s military, as contained in Senate-passed amendment, instead of any extension of tax cuts for capital gains and dividends (which do not expire until 2009), as contained in House-passed bill."   [HR 4297, Vote 8, 2/2/06, Passed 44-53: R 1-52 D 42-1 I 1-0; HR 4297, Vote 18, 2/14/06, Failed 45-55: R 1-54 D 43-1 I 1-0]

McCain Voted Against Providing An Additional $322 Million for Troops’ Safety Equipment, Including Body Armor.   In 2003, McCain voted against an amendment to provide an additional $322 million for battlefield clearance and safety equipment for U.S. troops in Iraq.  As National Journal noted, the amendment would have provided funding for "soldiers’ body armor, communications and other equipment."  The increased spending would have been offset by a reduction in Iraqi reconstruction funds. [S 1689, Vote 376, 10/2/03, Passed 49-37: R 46-0 D 2-37 I 1-0; National Journal’s CongressDaily, 10/3/03]

McCain Opposed $1 Billion For Equipment For National Guard. In 2003, McCain opposed providing $1 billion for equipment for the National Guard and Reserves. [S 762, Vote 116, 4/2/03, Passed 52-47: R 51-0 D 1-46 I 0-1]

·  MCCAIN REPEATEDLY VOTED AGAINST INCREASES AND OBAMA VOTED FOR INCREASE FOR VETERANS HEALTH CARE BENEFITS

Obama Voted For And McCain Voted Against Increasing Funding For Military And Veterans Hospitals By Limiting Dividend And Capital Gains Tax Cuts To Individuals Earning Less Than $1 Million.  In 2006, Obama voted for and McCain voted against providing $19 billion for military and veterans hospitals, offset by limiting the dividend and capital-gains tax rates to individuals earning less than $1 million. [HR 4297, Vote 7, Failed 44-53: R 1-52; D 42-1 (ND 38-1, SD 4-0); I 1-0; 2/2/06]

Obama Voted For And McCain Voted Against Adding Nearly Half-A-Billion Dollars In Funding For Veterans Health Care In Wake Of $1.2 Billion Shortfall.  In 2006, Obama voted for and McCain voted against adding $430 million for outpatient and inpatient health care and treatment for veterans. [HR 4939, Vote 98, 4/26/06, Passed 84-13, D 41-0; R 42-13; I 1-0; The Independent Budget, A Budget for Veterans by Veterans, 2/10/06; Newsweek, 1/19/06]

Obama Voted Against And McCain Voted For Tripling TRICARE Fees For Veterans Offset By Eliminating Corporate Tax Breaks.  In 2006, Obama voted for and McCain voted against the Kerry amendment that would eliminate a tripling of fees for veterans in the TRICARE health care program by raising the discretionary spending limit by approximately $10 billion. The provisions would have been fully offset by eliminating certain corporate tax breaks.  [SCR 83, Vote 67, 3/16/06, Failed 46-53, D:43-1, R:2-52, I:1-0]

Obama Voted For And McCain Voted Against Making Veterans’ Health Benefits A Mandatory Spending Program And Avoiding Future Budget Shortfalls.   In 2006, Obama voted for and McCain voted against an amendment that would make veterans’ health benefits a mandatory program, spending $104 billion over five years.  The funding would have been offset by closing corporate tax loopholes and rolling back the Bush tax cuts for millionaires.  [SCR 83, Vote 63, 3/16/06, Failed 46-54, D:43-1, R:2-53, I:1-0]

Obama Voted For And McCain Voted Against Increasing VA Health Care By $1.5 Billion; Amendment Was Paid For By Ending Corporate Tax Breaks. In 2006, Obama voted for and McCain voted against an amendment that increased the discretionary spending limit by $1.5 billion to $874.5 billion to provide an increase in funding for veterans’ medical services. It would be offset by ending certain corporate tax breaks. [Vote 41, SCR 83, 3/14/2006, Failed 46-54: R 1-54; D 44-0; I 1-0]

Obama Voted For And McCain Voted Against An Amendment To Increase Veterans’ Health Care Funding By $2B. In 2005, Obama voted for and McCain voted against increasing funding for the Veterans Affairs Department by $1.98 billion and designate it as emergency spending. It would stipulate that $840 million be used for veterans’ regional health networks; $610 million be used to address the needs of service members deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan; and $525 million be used to provide mental health care and treatment. [Vote 90, HR 1268, Failed: 46-54: R 1-54; D 44-0; I 1-0, 4/12/05; Vote 89, HR 1268, R 1-54, D 44-0, I 1-0, 4/12/05]

Obama Supported And McCain Opposed And Increasing Funding for Veterans Mental Health Services.   In 2005, Obama voted for and McCain voted against providing an additional $500 million per year for five years for veterans’ mental health services. The cost of the proposal would have been offset by deferring tax cuts for those making $1 million a year. [S 2020, Vote 343, 11/17/05; Failed 43-55: R 1-53; D 41-2; I 1-0]

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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2008, 12:10:01 AM »

Makes no difference to anybody here, my friend.  Obama will always be a black piece of shit who "wants to be our president, and shit...." and McCain is still an old schmuck who just isn't exciting enough.
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2008, 05:19:01 PM »

It will be difficult for McCain to avoid his own voting record.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2008, 02:34:57 PM »

After all this time and nonsense, i just can not believe that John McCain is the best that the GOP could muster for this election. It's like they knew they never had a chance, so they just stuck an old guy up, knowing that he'll lose and that his future is limited to rocking chairs and oatmeal anyway. Why would they put up a viable candidate who might have a chance in a future election??
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2008, 02:37:16 PM »

After all this time and nonsense, i just can not believe that John McCain is the best that the GOP could muster for this election. It's like they knew they never had a chance, so they just stuck an old guy up, knowing that he'll lose and that his future is limited to rocking chairs and oatmeal anyway. Why would they put up a viable candidate who might have a chance in a future election??

totally agree.

i was just likening it to when bob dole was gifted the nomination.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2008, 02:44:34 PM »

Excellent analogy!
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2008, 03:22:21 PM »

honestly, this is the best that politicians that call themselves republican have to offer. Embarrassed
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 03:41:19 PM »

And we all know that there are far more qualified people to serve as the Republican candidate for the POTUS. And if we agree on that, we have to ask: just who/what is in control, and what is their/its true agenda?  Huh

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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2008, 04:12:11 PM »

Just who are these republicans Huh

This is not intended to be a snarky question ... but just who in the republican party would have been a viable candidate Huh

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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2008, 04:13:39 PM »

And we all know that there are far more qualified people to serve as the Republican candidate for the POTUS. And if we agree on that, we have to ask: just who/what is in control, and what is their/its true agenda?  Huh



I agree with that and expand this comment to the Democratic Party. 

Guant- do you mean a viable candidate or do you mean a better candidate? 
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2008, 04:16:02 PM »

The Republican Party had a horrible field of candidates this time around. As for the Democrats, I kind of liked Joe Biden and Bill Richardson, but they didn't have a chance in hell.

2012 may be the year for Bobby Jindal and Russ Feingold.
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2008, 04:20:15 PM »

And we all know that there are far more qualified people to serve as the Republican candidate for the POTUS. And if we agree on that, we have to ask: just who/what is in control, and what is their/its true agenda?  Huh



I agree with that and expand this comment to the Democratic Party. 

Guant- do you mean a viable candidate or do you mean a better candidate? 

Agreed, Peter. Agreed.
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2008, 04:21:15 PM »

The Republican Party had a horrible field of candidates this time around. As for the Democrats, I kind of liked Joe Biden and Bill Richardson, but they didn't have a chance in hell.

2012 may be the year for Bobby Jindal and Russ Feingold.

We had all better keep an eye on 2012...
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2008, 04:25:14 PM »

The Republican Party had a horrible field of candidates this time around. As for the Democrats, I kind of liked Joe Biden and Bill Richardson, but they didn't have a chance in hell.

2012 may be the year for Bobby Jindal and Russ Feingold.

We had all better keep an eye on 2012...

I can't imagine who would run in 2012. I've mentioned Bobby Jindal and Russ Feingold. Clinton will be in her mid-60s at that time. Biden would be 69 or 70. Richardson would only be 64 or 65. Jindal would be in his early-40s then. Romney would be in his late-60s. Huckabee would still be in his 50s, I believe. Feingold would be 59 or 60.
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2008, 04:32:02 PM »

The Republican Party had a horrible field of candidates this time around. As for the Democrats, I kind of liked Joe Biden and Bill Richardson, but they didn't have a chance in hell.

2012 may be the year for Bobby Jindal and Russ Feingold.

We had all better keep an eye on 2012...

Whoever wins in 2008 will have so many issues to deal with that they may well be a one term President- even if they do a decent job.   
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