FOOLPROOF WAY TO DETERMINE IF A PERSON IS A LIBEROFASCIST

[SDML]

Note to self: Do not try and kid around with SDML.

Hahaha! Easy, big fella - I was just asking a question. I thought my quip was funny (I'll try harder next time).

Frankly, I didn't think about it. Now that you ask I do think there is a greater emotional component in liberalism. Do  I think all liberals are overly emotional girly men? No.

Interesting. I'm not sure I would agree. My take is that liberals allow emotion to color their solutions to social ills ("We must feed the children!"), while conservatives allow emotion to color their solutions to...social ills ("We must protect the children!"). Liberals spend WAY to much money on failed solutions to (mostly) real problems, while conservatives used to not spend it, but now spend as much as liberals, on solutions to perceived problems (i.e. - anything that seems like it might destroy that which they see as "traditional").

Now, there can be arguments made for traditionalism. But don't fool yourself - it is reasoned after the fact, with emotion being the prime mover. You know...just like liberals arguing for "equality".

If agreeing with Tex when I believe that he is right makes me a bad guy then so be it. The truth is more important to me than being liked.

I agree 100%. However, in this case (as in many cases), he is mistaken. Conservatism is no less emotional than modern liberalism (just look at the conservatives who justify positions less on reason and more on the bible, for example). Further, while I am unabashedly libertarian (as everyone here but Tex knows), I don't delude myself into thinking the fundamental precepts of classic liberalism or modern libertarianism are wholly devoid of emotional factors or completely based on logic. It just isn't so.

The difference between libertarianism and the current duopoly is that libertarianism is an internally consistent philosophy while the others are not. However, the Greens can likely say the same.

BIGTEX has NEVER so much as intimated that one should not be compassionate.

BIGTEX has NEVER so much as intimated that one should not be caring.

BIGTEX would NEVER, however, let his emotions alone determine a particular course of action.

Logic and reason should be the guideposts by which we arrive at important conclusions.

Now there is some ground on which Tex and I can agree. I might also add that this is a much better statement than the opening statement, especially with regards to the snippet "...let his emotions alone...", indicating the reality that emotionalism itself is not the culprit. Only when emotionalism over-rides all else.

[Mr. Dirlewanger]

Just got a negative vibe from that, SDML.  Nevermind. 

Interesting. I'm not sure I would agree. My take is that liberals allow emotion to color their solutions to social ills ("We must feed the children!"), while conservatives allow emotion to color their solutions to...social ills ("We must protect the children!"). Liberals spend WAY to much money on failed solutions to (mostly) real problems, while conservatives used to not spend it, but now spend as much as liberals, on solutions to perceived problems (i.e. - anything that seems like it might destroy that which they see as "traditional").

Now, there can be arguments made for traditionalism. But don't fool yourself - it is reasoned after the fact, with emotion being the prime mover. You know...just like liberals arguing for "equality".

Well I can't object to the notion that "conservatives" are just as apt now to throw money at the perceived ills of the day.

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

Imagine you are in an airport lounge between flights, and several persons you have never seen before in your life, who hail from different parts of the country, are gathered 'round the bar, when the conversation turns to politics, economics, etc.

You know a person is a conservative or libertarian when, to press home his point, he states something to the effect of, "Well, an analysis of all the relevant data reveals we should take the following steps . . ."

You know the person speaking is a liberal when he states, "I FEEL we should take the following steps . . . "

Liberalism is an emotional response to life; far, far removed from facts, logic, reason and historical perspective.

Conservatives and libertarians, on the other hand, make their decisions BASED on facts, logic, reason and historical perspective.

NEVER FORGET THIS IRREFUTABLE TRUTH!

generally correct.

[Mr. Ed]

BIGTEX has NEVER so much as intimated that one should not be compassionate.

BIGTEX has NEVER so much as intimated that one should not be caring.

BIGTEX would NEVER, however, let his emotions alone determine a particular course of action.

Logic and reason should be the guideposts by which we arrive at important conclusions.

BIGTEX is STRONGLY anti-abortion, for instance, but for reasons which have NOTHING to do with emotions, but have EVERYTHING to do with unresolved questions of the nature of life.

Jimmy likes Elaine.