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« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2008, 10:48:04 AM » |
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conservatives appointed to the court will respect the constitution and understand the limits of judicial purview. ruth bader ginsberg are you kidding me!!
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« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2008, 11:14:18 AM » |
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Harriet Myers ... what was that all about? Was that even a serious nomination?
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« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2008, 12:42:44 PM » |
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Harriet Myers ... what was that all about? Was that even a serious nomination?
it was a pocket nomination. an attempt by bush to place someone on the court with no record to attack and whom bush was sure would follow scalia's lead. after all the furor died he ended up appointing roberts and alito, to well qualified, conservative jurists.
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« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2008, 02:10:17 PM » |
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Pat Buchanan said it most recently...not the first or the last
The mistake the democrats are making is thinking that the dissatisfaction with current regime is an endorsement of their (misguided) practices. if and when they assume power, they will assume a mandate -- where non exists -- and promptly continue to fuck things up, be corrupt, and basically be no better than republicans (the last bit is my own interpretation).
i guess things are going to have to get worse before they get better...only when we have 3rd parties or at the least politicians accountable for their own actions will america continue to chart new heights. in the meantime i guess we've got to settle for the status quo
This is exactly correct. It is why I have left the Republican Party and will not support the current Republican candidate. It is much better to have bad policies blamed on the Democrats than the Republicans. Otherwise we will never return to a limited federal republic. can this nation recover from the long term ramifications of a supreme court stacked by bo or mrs bill? Can this nation survive administrations from either party spending money faster than we can print it?
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« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2008, 04:54:42 PM » |
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it was a pocket nomination. an attempt by bush to place someone on the court with no record to attack and whom bush was sure would follow scalia's lead. after all the furor died he ended up appointing roberts and alito, to well qualified, conservative jurists.
It was irresponsible to nominate someone unqualified. To me, it indicated that Bush doesn't respect our system of government. This is a lifetime appointment. Once there, who know if she'd follow Scalia's lead. Look at how the current justices have evolved over time.
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« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2008, 06:47:44 PM » |
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Pat Buchanan said it most recently...not the first or the last
The mistake the democrats are making is thinking that the dissatisfaction with current regime is an endorsement of their (misguided) practices. if and when they assume power, they will assume a mandate -- where non exists -- and promptly continue to fuck things up, be corrupt, and basically be no better than republicans (the last bit is my own interpretation).
i guess things are going to have to get worse before they get better...only when we have 3rd parties or at the least politicians accountable for their own actions will america continue to chart new heights. in the meantime i guess we've got to settle for the status quo
This is exactly correct. It is why I have left the Republican Party and will not support the current Republican candidate. It is much better to have bad policies blamed on the Democrats than the Republicans. Otherwise we will never return to a limited federal republic. can this nation recover from the long term ramifications of a supreme court stacked by bo or mrs bill? Can this nation survive administrations from either party spending money faster than we can print it? this is not a discussion re fiscal responsibility, rather re the impact of scotus. a yes or no question?!?
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« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2008, 07:20:50 PM » |
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it was a pocket nomination. an attempt by bush to place someone on the court with no record to attack and whom bush was sure would follow scalia's lead. after all the furor died he ended up appointing roberts and alito, to well qualified, conservative jurists.
. To me, it indicated that Bush doesn't respect our system of government. This is a lifetime appointment. Once there, who know if she'd follow Scalia's lead. Look at how the current justices have evolved over time. It was irresponsible to nominate someone unqualifiedWe'll all be saying that as soon as the dems decide whether Hitlary or Nobama runs against McCain.
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« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2008, 07:27:13 PM » |
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It was irresponsible to nominate someone unqualified We'll all be saying that as soon as the dems decide whether Hitlary or Nobama runs against McCain.
Why? Everybody gets to vote and it's for a limited term.
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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2008, 08:56:27 PM » |
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It was irresponsible to nominate someone unqualified We'll all be saying that as soon as the dems decide whether Hitlary or Nobama runs against McCain.
Why? Everybody gets to vote and it's for a limited term. yeah gee wow wee why is it irresponsible to nominate someone unqualified for president 
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Can this nation survive administrations from either party spending money faster than we can print it? [/quote]
this is not a discussion re fiscal responsibility, rather re the impact of scotus. a yes or no question?!? [/quote]
It doesn’t matter one bit who is on the Supreme Court if administrations from both parties spend us into oblivion.
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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2008, 09:43:07 AM » |
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It was irresponsible to nominate someone unqualified We'll all be saying that as soon as the dems decide whether Hitlary or Nobama runs against McCain.
Why? Everybody gets to vote and it's for a limited term. yeah gee wow wee why is it irresponsible to nominate someone unqualified for president  You don't trust the voters, do you?
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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2008, 09:51:04 AM » |
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i have neither trust or respect for the voters and yes the conformation of scotus is not just important but other than war time powers it has over time become the most important function of the executive.
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