Liberals promote racism in America.

[conley]

Spunk,

Shortly after I joined this board, Mr D. admitted he was racey.
I have more respect for that than I do for Obama for being deceitful about being a racist.
I think Americans should have the freedom to be racists, though I detest any type of racism!

huh? when did mister d say he was 'racey' and what the heck does that mean?

and where is mister d today anyway>

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

people are free to hold whatever beliefs, bias etc.... that they choose.  this is a free country.  it is the exercise and manifestation of that freedom in public policy that concerns me.  hell for all i know i may be a white supremest in that i agree with mr d on multi-culturalism and securing our borders.  unlike mr d i would uproot people in this country who came here illegally and i don't give a damn who brought them, how old they are/aren't, how long they have been here or how hard working and good intentioned they might be.  if you are in the country illegally you are an alien criminal. 

[Mr. Dirlewanger]

Spunk I don't have enough time right but I would like to address your comments. For now, I will just point out that I have no problem with socialism per se and I agree that Europe's political climate is much further Left than it is here in the states. That said, most Europeans care deeply about protecting their identity against an influx of foreigners from the Mid East and Africa. Indeed, they are much more open about it than Americans who are hamstrung by our immigrant tradition.

Wow Both Conley and I have no idea what you are talking about.  I might have told you I was sympathetic to White nationalism but that's about it. But I take comfort in the fact that you don't find me as reprehensible as Obama. 


Grumpy I was concerned you might think that I harbor ill will toward American Blacks and wish them gone. That's why I said what I did re uprooting people but I am concerned that the racial situation will grow increasingly worse not least because White America is at last growing tired of endless concessions.

I agree on the illegal aliens issue. I don't care about them or their families. If the federal gov't would do its job we wouldn't be in this mess.

As for public policy, I would like to see a manifestation of my beliefs with regard to immigration. I would also like to see our government/elite give up on its dream of integration. It failed miserably because everyone hates it be they White, Black, Brown etc. I don't want to be managed and I will associate with whomever I please.

[spunkloaf]

I am against the death penalty. I do believe that liberals promote racism in this country. 

I think it's funny how you end such a negative statement with a smiley, like it's supposed to lighten people's spirits about what you said.

"I think I'll kill myself today. "

Pitty, you are a sweet person, but that statement is entirely false.  I am a liberal/lefty/independent (or whatever), and I get along fine with other races.  Almost everybody I've ever met or know about that has similar political and moral ideals is largely open-minded to other races, and...well, EVERYBODY.  Liberals don't like to pick on people at all, that's why we're LIBERAL.  Liberals don't call people "whiney" or "lazy" or accuse people of belonging to "generation ME".  I personally just want all American people to have what they deserve, no more, no less.

And it's funny I'm hearing this from the right side now, when liberals used to be accused of always "taking the black side".  So I suggest that if people are going to put slanderous stereotypes on liberals, they should have at least some consistency.

Believe what you will, say what you must, but I'm not going to go around posting negative, slanderous and ill-founded things like that about republicans just because I don't like most of them.

I'm also against the death penalty, but I also live in a state that doesn't practice it, so I'm content.  Other states can kill all the criminals they want, if the criminals there are dumb enough to commit those crimes knowing they could die for it.  Overall, I hope it is eventually replaced with a better means to rehabilitate criminals.

You know, I really don't care about the death penalty anymore.  There's plenty of killing happening elsewhere, it's almost redundant to waste energy worrying about how our country handles it's most offensive criminals.

Personally I think it should be left up to the victim's family to decide, but that could get really ugly.

Mr. D, don't ever bring up racism again after that little comment.

What comment was that? You don't think Black men commit a disproportionate share of violent crime? I'm surprised that an obviously true statement could provoke such an ideological and irrational response from a "free" thinker.

Violent crime is violent crime and anybody is capable of it.  Statistics don't prove anything when you ask "Which race does more violent crime?"
Here it's white, there it's blacks, over there it's Hispanics.  So no, your statement is not "obviously" true in my eyes, and maybe because I AM a free thinker.

I used a smiley face because I don't want you to think Im saying this in a nasty way. Liberals do promote racism. The ACLU, NAACP etc. make a living off race issues etc. They spend all their time looking for race problems and if they can't find them they make them up and create bogus claims. Therefore they promote racism and make an industry out of it. If no racism then no money. What would these racist do for a living then?   

Who gives a shit about the ACLU and NAACP anyways?  Just because they are liberal doesn't mean liberals promote racism any more than reps or conservatives.  That's an unfair statement.

[Vermouth]

Yes, there are racial differences across populations. However, it has no relevance when judging individuals.

Also, you don't necessarily know a person's genetic makeup from looking at him. Skin color can be deceiving.

Wanting to preserve one's cultural heritage is understandable.

[pittypat65]

What I am saying is that these organizations promote racism and sexism and every other ism. 

[spunkloaf]

That's fair then.

I'll balance it by saying the right side promotes racism equally as much.

[wow]

Mr D,

It was like "you may be perceived as being a racist" I did not think much of it one way or the other.
You are many light-years from being an Obama. LOL

Racey = Being perceived or classified as being a racist, I'm sure I am also.

I may need to start my own dictionary   

[Mr. Dirlewanger]

Mr D,

It was like "you may be perceived as being a racist" I did not think much of it one way or the other.
You are many light-years from being an Obama. LOL

Racey = Being perceived or classified as being a racist, I'm sure I am also.

I may need to start my own dictionary   

  I see. Well that's for sure. I'm used to it though.

[wow]

That's fair then.

I'll balance it by saying the right side promotes racism equally as much.

Spunk,
Name a few organizations that are conservative, that promote racism in America "remotely close" to as much as the NAACP and the ACLU do?

Name some Pastors or any cracker that promotes racism like Rev. Wright?

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

kkk and robert "white sheets" byrd

[pittypat65]

kkk and robert "white sheets" byrd

The KKK has zero respect with most Americans. Whereas the NAACP and ACLU are powerful organizations. And R. Byrd is senile isnt he? Don't even compare the Conservatives with the liberal democrats.    We are talking about 2008 not 1950. 

[spunkloaf]

I don't have to name any organization.

Most white supremacists and racist people are republican/conservative.  It's just a fact.

[pittypat65]

I don't have to name any organization.



Most white supremacists and racist people are republican/conservative.  It's just a fact.

Well, I am a white conservative democrat(who is voting for McCain) and don't know one white supremist.  Who are you talking about? People like the skinheads? 

[spunkloaf]

And those organizations you named do not promote racism, they are there to protect people's rights.  Not only blacks, I might add.

I don't have to name any organization.



Most white supremacists and racist people are republican/conservative.  It's just a fact.

Well, I am a white conservative democrat(who is voting for McCain) and don't know one white supremist.  Who are you talking about? People like the skinheads? 

Well, okay pitty.  I am liberal/democrat and I don't know any either, so this conversation is pointless, and it's wrong to say that liberals promote racism any more than other people--if at all.