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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2009, 08:12:06 PM »

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Spunk, this is a fair question is it not? I would really like your input. Three points:

1) Foreign cultural enclaves are present in the West and continue to expand.

2) Non-Western cultures are far more hostile to homosexuals (not to mention feminists) virtually without exception.

3) Your government doesn't even make an effort to encourage aliens to adopt Western values/mores.

What do you think of this situation? What should a French homosexual think of the creeping Islamization of his homeland?

1) I am not the least bit worried about other cultures overshadowing American culture.  Our culture is so strong it will take a long long time to break it or surpass it with something else.  Culture is our best product as a country.  Everybody wants to be an American.  Take pride in that, I certainly do.  The fact that other people are displaying their cultures in this place...does not intimidate me, disturb me, nor interest me for that matter.

2)Nobody argues that.  But many people in this country still value that discrimination, including the Catholic Church--which is supposed to be our big social moral mentor, or something.

3)That's why people love America.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2009, 09:25:32 PM »

If you are white and you want to avoid being racist, kill yourself. Leave your house to mentally challenged ethnic diversities. Leave all your money to the NAACP. Use a gun made in a different county.

This is also a good solution to avoid your carbon footprint. Except leave your all your money to Al Gore. Have your house recycled. Use an eco-friendly gun.
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2009, 09:45:18 PM »

If you are white and you want to avoid being racist, kill yourself. Leave your house to mentally challenged ethnic diversities. Leave all your money to the NAACP. Use a gun made in a different county.

This is also a good solution to avoid your carbon footprint. Except leave your all your money to Al Gore. Have your house recycled. Use an eco-friendly gun.

Lol.  That's witty as hell, but I don't think it's all like that.
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2009, 08:55:53 AM »

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Spunk, this is a fair question is it not? I would really like your input. Three points:

1) Foreign cultural enclaves are present in the West and continue to expand.

2) Non-Western cultures are far more hostile to homosexuals (not to mention feminists) virtually without exception.

3) Your government doesn't even make an effort to encourage aliens to adopt Western values/mores.

What do you think of this situation? What should a French homosexual think of the creeping Islamization of his homeland?

1) I am not the least bit worried about other cultures overshadowing American culture.  Our culture is so strong it will take a long long time to break it or surpass it with something else.  Culture is our best product as a country.  Everybody wants to be an American.  Take pride in that, I certainly do.  The fact that other people are displaying their cultures in this place...does not intimidate me, disturb me, nor interest me for that matter.

2)Nobody argues that.  But many people in this country still value that discrimination, including the Catholic Church--which is supposed to be our big social moral mentor, or something.

3)That's why people love America.

1) I know you are not the least bit concerned. That is why I brought it up. Our culture is...actually, that is a great question. We seem to have such a hard time defining it. Why don't you give it a shot, Spunk.

2) No, the Catholic Church does not approve, condone, or accept violence against homosexuals in any way shape or form. You're delusional. Neither does any other major Christian sect whose members (including the Catholics) comprise 99% or more of the Christian population. Let me give you a quick lesson in how homosexuals are treated world wide. Did you know that homosexuality is illegal in a large part of the world?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_rights_by_country

Wow! It appears that gay Mexicans have been granted asylum in the USA!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16895639/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/11/AR2008081102038.html

3) OK. So you don't care that hostile cultures continue to expand in your country. Cultures, moreover, that really do approve of your destruction.
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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2009, 10:39:58 AM »

I would like to point out that America has always been welcoming to other cultures and ethnicities. If they come here legally. And I wouldn't be worried about other cultures overshadowing ours. American culture is composed of many different ones.
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2009, 11:32:31 AM »

I would like to point out that America has always been welcoming to other cultures and ethnicities. If they come here legally. And I wouldn't be worried about other cultures overshadowing ours. American culture is composed of many different ones.

No, it hasn't. Our immigration policy underwent a fundamental change in the late 1960s that has led directly to the Balkanized society we have today.

American culture is composed of many different ones? Is that another way of saying American culture doesn't exist? I wouldn't worry either then. Something that doesn't exist is in no danger of being swamped by alien influences. Of course, I do worry because American culture is thoroughly Western and as the culture of the peoples who built this nation is displaced the nation's status will suffer. A majority Third World population will eventually yield Third World status.

Ah, don't sweat it. Diversity if our strength!  Roll Eyes Doesn't it amaze you how something so counter-intuitive can go unchallenged even while our nation becomes a boarding house for the Third World?
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2009, 12:23:57 PM »

I would like to point out that America has always been welcoming to other cultures and ethnicities. If they come here legally. And I wouldn't be worried about other cultures overshadowing ours. American culture is composed of many different ones.

No, it hasn't. Our immigration policy underwent a fundamental change in the late 1960s that has led directly to the Balkanized society we have today.

American culture is composed of many different ones? Is that another way of saying American culture doesn't exist? I wouldn't worry either then. Something that doesn't exist is in no danger of being swamped by alien influences. Of course, I do worry because American culture is thoroughly Western and as the culture of the peoples who built this nation is displaced the nation's status will suffer. A majority Third World population will eventually yield Third World status.

Ah, don't sweat it. Diversity if our strength!  Roll Eyes Doesn't it amaze you how something so counter-intuitive can go unchallenged even while our nation becomes a boarding house for the Third World?

The badger has a point.

Diversity is our strength in many ways, as gay as it sounds to say that.  It is a great demonstration of freedom.

We are one of the few countries in the world who tell people that they can do whatever they please in this country, as long as they follow some basic rules.  Religion does not rule our laws.

You are not worried about our culture as much as you are worried about a specific fashion of American culture.
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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2009, 12:37:13 PM »

I would like to point out that America has always been welcoming to other cultures and ethnicities. If they come here legally. And I wouldn't be worried about other cultures overshadowing ours. American culture is composed of many different ones.

No, it hasn't. Our immigration policy underwent a fundamental change in the late 1960s that has led directly to the Balkanized society we have today.

American culture is composed of many different ones? Is that another way of saying American culture doesn't exist? I wouldn't worry either then. Something that doesn't exist is in no danger of being swamped by alien influences. Of course, I do worry because American culture is thoroughly Western and as the culture of the peoples who built this nation is displaced the nation's status will suffer. A majority Third World population will eventually yield Third World status.

Ah, don't sweat it. Diversity if our strength!  Roll Eyes Doesn't it amaze you how something so counter-intuitive can go unchallenged even while our nation becomes a boarding house for the Third World?

The badger has a point.

Diversity is our strength in many ways, as gay as it sounds to say that.  It is a great demonstration of freedom.

We are one of the few countries in the world who tell people that they can do whatever they please in this country, as long as they follow some basic rules.  Religion does not rule our laws.

You are not worried about our culture as much as you are worried about a specific fashion of American culture.

It wasn't badger's point that diversity is our strength. Frankly, he doesn't sound uncritical enough to believe something like that. Furthermore, the survival of the freedoms you savor are contingent upon the survival of the culture that spawned them.

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You are not worried about our culture as much as you are worried about a specific fashion of American culture.

This is a nonsensical statement. If you meant that I worry abut our culture becoming more like Mexico's, for instance, you are correct.
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« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2009, 02:27:16 PM »

Diversity of western culture is our strength. 
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« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2009, 02:35:21 PM »

Diversity of western culture is our strength. 

I agree with that statement.
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« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2009, 02:47:22 PM »

I would like to point out that America has always been welcoming to other cultures and ethnicities. If they come here legally. And I wouldn't be worried about other cultures overshadowing ours. American culture is composed of many different ones.

No, it hasn't. Our immigration policy underwent a fundamental change in the late 1960s that has led directly to the Balkanized society we have today.

American culture is composed of many different ones? Is that another way of saying American culture doesn't exist? I wouldn't worry either then. Something that doesn't exist is in no danger of being swamped by alien influences. Of course, I do worry because American culture is thoroughly Western and as the culture of the peoples who built this nation is displaced the nation's status will suffer. A majority Third World population will eventually yield Third World status.

Ah, don't sweat it. Diversity if our strength!  Roll Eyes Doesn't it amaze you how something so counter-intuitive can go unchallenged even while our nation becomes a boarding house for the Third World?

The badger has a point.

Diversity is our strength in many ways, as gay as it sounds to say that.  It is a great demonstration of freedom.

We are one of the few countries in the world who tell people that they can do whatever they please in this country, as long as they follow some basic rules.  Religion does not rule our laws.

You are not worried about our culture as much as you are worried about a specific fashion of American culture.

Diversity is bullshit.  When a job has to be done right the first time, you put the most qualified person in that job.  Take Sotomayor, for instance.  She's had so many rulings broken off in her ass that it looks like she's got a cornfield growing out of her sphincter, yet the AA Hire-In-Chief can't find anyone more qualified.  Welcome to Dip-Shit City, people!
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« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2009, 05:37:06 PM »

I don't see what you are worried about. Other cultures will always come to America, and we should welcome them. The good thing about your worries of cultures overshadowing "ours" is that it can not happen. People who come to America usually want to come here and become part of our established culture. Some things will be carried over from their previous culture, the Germans gave us Christmas trees, but people come to America to begin a new heritage here, with our already established cultures.
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« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2009, 05:41:02 PM »

To minorites diversity means giving the job to whomever steps up and asks for it.  If they like you and think your qualified then that person should get the job, forget about test scores and other unique qualfications.  The phrase "shovel ready" comes to mind, as in shovel shit because they talk is so often
that shit is all some should be shoveling.  Liking someone's skin color or ethic background is no reason for promotion.

Less qualified has always meant least desirable till recently.  Now those with lesser skills are somehow the right choice only because of ethnic origin while Dems surrender to all unlogical arguements.  Those who surrender must also be unqualified since they can't make intelligent arguements and defend all racist accusations. 

Hell I should run for office with the "Go Eff Yourself" campaign, "Only the Qualified Need Apply"  Show me a Latino or black who meets the crteria and has the experience and I'll give them a chance.  Show me a 60 percentile who wants the job and I'll explain it to him so he'll understand he needs to work harder, educate himself more and take the test again next year.  We don't want dumb asses running the country nor the fire department.   Ehhh what am I saying, we have plenty on both sides and dumbasses who support them blindly.
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« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2009, 06:12:49 PM »

Correct. It would be stupid to give a promotion to someone who didn't deserve it in the interest of being racially "fair." That wasn't my message at all. My message was not to be worried about other cultures overshadowing ours. (See my above post)
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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2009, 06:38:43 PM »

Correct. It would be stupid to give a promotion to someone who didn't deserve it in the interest of being racially "fair." That wasn't my message at all. My message was not to be worried about other cultures overshadowing ours. (See my above post)

Seedy always assumes his opposition in an argument is automatically un-American, and anti-white.

Many of our discussions end up like this.
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