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This is somewhat interesting. HOUSTON -- There is real hope that what’s happening in a Houston lab might lead to a cure for HIV. “We have found an innovative way to kill the virus by finding this small region of HIV that is unchangeable,” Dr. Sudhir Paul of the University of Texas Medical School at Houston said. Dr. Paul and Dr. Miguel Escobar aren’t talking about just suppressing HIV – they’re talking about destroying it permanently by arming the immune system with a new weapon lab tests have shown to be effective. http://www.kvue.com/news/state/stories/072908kvuehivbreakthrough-cb.14e217f8.htmlThe theory has held up in lab and animal testing. The next step is human trials. Hope it works.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2008, 01:55:17 PM » |
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very interesting- more so if it has applications to other viruses.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2008, 02:14:02 PM » |
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To social conservatives, the only way to destroy HIV is to kill all the homosexuals in the United States. Science is a BIG no-no to social conservatives. It's evil.
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2008, 02:47:20 PM » |
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To social conservatives, the only way to destroy HIV is to kill all the homosexuals in the United States. Science is a BIG no-no to social conservatives. It's evil.
Do you have a citation for that claim? I am not part of the religious right, but I nevertheless find such a remark to be fantastical.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2008, 02:48:56 PM » |
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To social conservatives, the only way to destroy HIV is to kill all the homosexuals in the United States. Science is a BIG no-no to social conservatives. It's evil.
Do you have a citation for that claim? I am not part of the religious right, but I nevertheless find such a remark to be fantastical. Not to mention offensive.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2008, 02:50:32 PM » |
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To social conservatives, the only way to destroy HIV is to kill all the homosexuals in the United States. Science is a BIG no-no to social conservatives. It's evil.
Do you have a citation for that claim? I am not part of the religious right, but I nevertheless find such a remark to be fantastical. First of all, almost all social conservatives believe AIDS is a homosexual disease exclusively, even though science has proven otherwise. Social conservatives reject science vehemently. Evolution is an excellent example of this.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2008, 02:52:30 PM » |
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To social conservatives, the only way to destroy HIV is to kill all the homosexuals in the United States. Science is a BIG no-no to social conservatives. It's evil.
Do you have a citation for that claim? I am not part of the religious right, but I nevertheless find such a remark to be fantastical. First of all, almost all social conservatives believe AIDS is a homosexual disease exclusively, even though science has proven otherwise. Social conservatives reject science vehemently. Evolution is an excellent example of this. i would agree with all of this.
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2008, 02:56:41 PM » |
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To social conservatives, the only way to destroy HIV is to kill all the homosexuals in the United States. Science is a BIG no-no to social conservatives. It's evil.
Do you have a citation for that claim? I am not part of the religious right, but I nevertheless find such a remark to be fantastical. First of all, almost all social conservatives believe AIDS is a homosexual disease exclusively, even though science has proven otherwise. Social conservatives reject science vehemently. Evolution is an excellent example of this. I am a social conservative, more or less. I do not reject science and certainly not evolution. Secondly, in the West AIDS is identified with homosexuals because that is where it started.
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2008, 02:58:25 PM » |
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To social conservatives, the only way to destroy HIV is to kill all the homosexuals in the United States. Science is a BIG no-no to social conservatives. It's evil.
Do you have a citation for that claim? I am not part of the religious right, but I nevertheless find such a remark to be fantastical. First of all, almost all social conservatives believe AIDS is a homosexual disease exclusively, even though science has proven otherwise. Social conservatives reject science vehemently. Evolution is an excellent example of this. I can agree that the religious right believes HIV to be a homosexual disease. That however, if a far cry from stating that the religious right wants homosexuals to die and would not be happy to see a cure of the disease that has been know to smite straights as well. Can you post a link to support your assertion that the religious right rejects science vehemently? I assume, since you did not limit your language, that you mean all science and not just the Theory of Evolution. Also, do different religions agree that all science is to be rejected vehemently or do they vehemently disagree about which science is useful and which is not?
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2008, 03:00:49 PM » |
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Are we talking about the Religous Right or social conservatives?
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2008, 03:03:49 PM » |
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to be fair, i do think even now the vast majority of hiv infected individuals are homosexuals. i don't know the data, that's just my assumption. i did also read that one out of every two hiv patients in this country is black. i would attribute that giant number to drug use.
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2008, 03:04:40 PM » |
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To social conservatives, the only way to destroy HIV is to kill all the homosexuals in the United States. Science is a BIG no-no to social conservatives. It's evil.
Do you have a citation for that claim? I am not part of the religious right, but I nevertheless find such a remark to be fantastical. First of all, almost all social conservatives believe AIDS is a homosexual disease exclusively, even though science has proven otherwise. Social conservatives reject science vehemently. Evolution is an excellent example of this. I can agree that the religious right believes HIV to be a homosexual disease. That however, if a far cry from stating that the religious right wants homosexuals to die and would not be happy to see a cure of the disease that has been know to smite straights as well. many of the religious right believe hiv to be a punishment from god for immoral acts
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2008, 03:05:41 PM » |
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To social conservatives, the only way to destroy HIV is to kill all the homosexuals in the United States. Science is a BIG no-no to social conservatives. It's evil.
Do you have a citation for that claim? I am not part of the religious right, but I nevertheless find such a remark to be fantastical. First of all, almost all social conservatives believe AIDS is a homosexual disease exclusively, even though science has proven otherwise. Social conservatives reject science vehemently. Evolution is an excellent example of this. I can agree that the religious right believes HIV to be a homosexual disease. That however, if a far cry from stating that the religious right wants homosexuals to die and would not be happy to see a cure of the disease that has been know to smite straights as well. Can you post a link to support your assertion that the religious right rejects science vehemently? I assume, since you did not limit your language, that you mean all science and not just the Theory of Evolution. Also, do different religions agree that all science is to be rejected vehemently or do they vehemently disagree about which science is useful and which is not? I was making a joke when I said social conservatives want all homosexuals to die. I see now that it was in very poor taste, and I apologize. I should have been clear in my language regarding science. I was referring specifically to evolution. Again, I apologize for the confusion. Mr. D.: Don’t social conservatives and the Religious Right go hand-in-hand?
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2008, 03:08:58 PM » |
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many of the religious right believe hiv to be a punishment from god for immoral acts
Also true. But that does not mean they relish the resulting suffering from the punishment and it does not mean that they believe homosexuals to be beyond forgiveness and grace.
Mike- no problem. I am all for jokes in combination with good argument. I apologize for doing a PLF (parachute landing fall) on your head.
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