Please be patient with me.

[HomieDontPlay]

I'm a hardcore Neo-Con and WOT supporter. I back the war, big time. I want the West to put Terrorist Islam in the hurt-locker, forever. 911 is still fresh in my mind, as are the torture-killings of many Americans in Al Qaeda's hands since. While I want to hang out with you fine folks, I won't change my beliefs for anyone or any reason. Old Homie Don't Play.

[conley]

I'm a hardcore Neo-Con and WOT supporter. I back the war, big time. I want the West to put Terrorist Islam in the hurt-locker, forever. 911 is still fresh in my mind, as are the torture-killings of many Americans in Al Qaeda's hands since. While I want to hang out with you fine folks, I won't change my beliefs for anyone or any reason. Old Homie Don't Play.

another neocon! grumpy will be so pleased to have a playmate!

welcome to the site now i will tell you how wrong you are 

hate to tell you but there are (at least) two wars going on, one in iraq and one in afghanistan. the one in afghnistan, which is the one you support i assume, is against al queda, the taliban, terrorists, 911, torture killings of americans, etc all the things you mention above

the war in iraq is a whole different ball of wax son. iraq was not doing anything in the past ten years other than getting bombed by american planes when they got squirrely with their radar. it does have a lot of oil and it did try to kill daddy bush (who by the way decided not to invade iraq , along with cheney who said it would have been a quagmire haha -- you seen that video yet? i didnt think so)

not all arabs are terrorists and iraq had a pretty progressive society (relative) before the united states destroyed it

the iraq war sure has helped al queda and obl out though, the best recruiting tool they ever could have hoped for!

[HomieDontPlay]

"iraq was not doing anything in the past ten years other than getting bombed by american planes when they got squirrely with their radar."

So, as US President, you would have just stood by while a maniac like Saddam Hussien faked the world into believing he was stockpiling all sorts of deadly nuclear-biological-chemical weapons, all of which he probably would have sold to Al Qaeda? I doubt it. You wouldn't have gotten re-elected if you did.

"....it does have a lot of oil and it did try to kill daddy bush (who by the way decided not to invade iraq , along with cheney who said it would have been a quagmire ha..."

Sure, but we're there now, and what can we do???

"....not all arabs are terrorists...."

No, but most support terrorists against the West. They hate us and always have.

"....and iraq had a pretty progressive society (relative) before the united states destroyed it"

Yeah, I too always considered Saddam 'progressive'. WTF???

"the iraq war sure has helped al queda and obl out though..."

How? It's losing ground in Iraq.

"....the best recruiting tool they ever could have hoped for!"

And the best opportunity to die for their frigged up cause. Peace through superior firepower, baby. Shoot'm all, let Allah sort'm out.

[conley]

"iraq was not doing anything in the past ten years other than getting bombed by american planes when they got squirrely with their radar."

So, as US President, you would have just stood by while a maniac like Saddam Hussien faked the world into believing he was stockpiling all sorts of deadly nuclear-biological-chemical weapons, all of which he probably would have sold to Al Qaeda? I doubt it. You wouldn't have gotten re-elected if you did.

actually north korea, iran,  and a lot of other countries were and are a lot more dangerous to the us than iraq. iraq was destroyed by the first war and after that had no military to speak of

"....it does have a lot of oil and it did try to kill daddy bush (who by the way decided not to invade iraq , along with cheney who said it would have been a quagmire ha..."

Sure, but we're there now, and what can we do???
were pretty much hosed, but hopefully we can get a steady supply of oil out of it i guess, since thats why went in the first place and that would make it not a complete loss


"....not all arabs are terrorists...."

No, but most support terrorists against the West. They hate us and always have.

maybe because we support their oppresive governments and have bombed the crap out of them

"....and iraq had a pretty progressive society (relative) before the united states destroyed it"

Yeah, I too always considered Saddam 'progressive'. WTF???

yeah actually compared to iran, saudi arabia, other countries in the middle east their society was closer to western in the sense of a lot of educated people, women with more rights, etc

"the iraq war sure has helped al queda and obl out though..."

How? It's losing ground in Iraq.

al queda wasnt in iraq until the us came

"....the best recruiting tool they ever could have hoped for!"

And the best opportunity to die for their frigged up cause. Peace through superior firepower, baby. Shoot'm all, let Allah sort'm out.

unfortunatley innocent arabs are dying as well as the occasional al queda suicide bomber operative

[Vermouth]

Welcome Homie!

There's been some discussion here lately as to what a neocon is. So is it a rational, old-fashioned conservative who becomes paranoid, trigger-happy and power-hungry?

[AC]

Dude, this guy's a Troll, clearly.

Dumbshit Grumpy in a feeble disguise.

Idiot Noise, reiterated.

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

you guys should sit in a circle and sing kumbyah.  watch ac's hands!  regardless we are in iraq, and we don't lose, ever.  before one of my mis-educated contributers from the left starts screaming re viet nam, let me remind you that we chose to lose both thru rules of engagement and abandoning the south viet namese.  the consequences were re-education camps, 2-3 million dead and boat people.   

[AC]

That reminds me, soldier,
It seems we need to mop-up a bit yet in Kampuchea, and yer the right boi for the job.

Hop to it, Fatboi,,,and leave no darky alive.

[HomieDontPlay]

Welcome Homie!

There's been some discussion here lately as to what a neocon is. So is it a rational, old-fashioned conservative who becomes paranoid, trigger-happy and power-hungry?

I don't think so. It's somebody who embraces a humane idealism, founded on Judeo-Christian values, who believes America should use its power to unify and stabilize the world in that vain. It's also someone who believes strongly that America should support Israel, as an outpost of Western Civilization in an otherwise hostile, barbarous community of nations -- the Middle East. Radical liberalism today is hatefully and dangerously anti-Establishment. Paleo-Conservatism is just flat crazy, in its denial of the geo-political realities America faces. 

[HomieDontPlay]

Dude, this guy's a Troll, clearly.

Dumbshit Grumpy in a feeble disguise.

Idiot Noise, reiterated.

Don't hold anything back, okay?

[HomieDontPlay]

That reminds me, soldier,
It seems we need to mop-up a bit yet in Kampuchea, and yer the right boi for the job.

Hop to it, Fatboi,,,and leave no darky alive.

Vietnamese aren't that dark.

[AC]

Welcome Homie!

There's been some discussion here lately as to what a neocon is. So is it a rational, old-fashioned conservative who becomes paranoid, trigger-happy and power-hungry?

I don't think so. It's somebody who embraces a humane idealism, founded on Judeo-Christian values, who believes America should use its power to unify and stabilize the world in that vain. It's also someone who believes strongly that America should support Israel, as an outpost of Western Civilization in an otherwise hostile, barbarous community of nations -- the Middle East. Radical liberalism today is hatefully and dangerously anti-Establishment. Paleo-Conservatism is just flat crazy, in its denial of the geo-political realities America faces. 

Yo Homie,

Who influenced Neocon ideology more: Strauss or Trotsky?

[HomieDontPlay]

I have no idea. I'm just a Republican who believes in American global hegemony, and who backs Israel. I'm patriotic and Catholic. Beyond that, I'm rather bland.

[AC]

You're a blowhard and a Troll.

Yer Grumpy.

[Vermouth]

I don't think so. It's somebody who embraces a humane idealism, founded on Judeo-Christian values, who believes America should use its power to unify and stabilize the world in that vain. It's also someone who believes strongly that America should support Israel, as an outpost of Western Civilization in an otherwise hostile, barbarous community of nations -- the Middle East. Radical liberalism today is hatefully and dangerously anti-Establishment. Paleo-Conservatism is just flat crazy, in its denial of the geo-political realities America faces. 

The geo-political realities we face are too unpredictable for us to continue spending a vast amount of resources in one place - Iraq. How can we afford to unify and stabilize the world?