The Possibility of a Prehistoric Nuclear War

[conley]

Iran will not attack another country, and to do so would be suicide.

Iran is not making nuclear weapons either.

If the soveriegn nation of Iran wanted to aquire nuclear weapons however, they need only pay our pals in Pakistan.

normally i would agree with you but remember how many iranians are suicide bombers?? if backed into a corner iran will definitely use nuclear weapons if they have access to them. hopefully they dont but i dont trust our intelligence after 9-11. do you? they might have nukes and we just dont know about it. in the last ten years probably twenty iran has always been a bigger threat to the us than iraq. pretty much since the us appointed shah was installed in iran and overthrown there has been a target on the us

[AC]

Well, I should imagine any nation threatened as Iran is presently would do whatever it could to defend itself from an attack by a foreign army, but using nukes would not save Iran from the aggressors, so only the known threat of retaliation would serve them.

Iran cannot play that card like so many other's can.

Iran is not in violation of the NPT or any other treaty, and indeed would be remiss in its duty to its people if it too weren't developing alternative energy sources. Given the belicosity of Bushco however, I wouldn't be surprised if Iran sought measures which before it lived without.

[conley]

Well, I should imagine any nation threatened as Iran is presently would do whatever it could to defend itself from an attack by a foreign army, but using nukes would not save Iran from the aggressors, so only the known threat of retaliation would serve them.

Iran cannot play that card like so many other's can.

Iran is not in violation of the NPT or any other treaty, and indeed would be remiss in its duty to its people if it too weren't developing alternative energy sources. Given the belacosity of Bushco however, I wouldn't be surprised if Iran sought measures which before it lived without.

that's true. any country facing its occupation or destruction would do the same. just like saddam did in desert storm one when he launched all his scuds at israel. that is a good point that if/when iran gets nukes they will broadcast it to the world, just like pakistan and north korea have done. thats why the us never attacked /occupied those countries even when it would be in the best interest. but in the meantime i think the fewer nukes on the planet the better. human nature is human nature and when it comes down to it americans and iranians arent that different

[AC]

If the U.S. really intended to target the sponsors of terrorism it would focus on Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Israel. Bushco does what it can to make a buck in the region.

[Dustin]

Well, I should imagine any nation threatened as Iran is presently would do whatever it could to defend itself from an attack by a foreign army, but using nukes would not save Iran from the aggressors, so only the known threat of retaliation would serve them.

Iran cannot play that card like so many other's can.

Iran is not in violation of the NPT or any other treaty, and indeed would be remiss in its duty to its people if it too weren't developing alternative energy sources. Given the belicosity of Bushco however, I wouldn't be surprised if Iran sought measures which before it lived without.

I agree. Although I do find that they are playing the cards very well.

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

reading the likes of ALL of you on this subject must be akin to watching the oxygen channel.  have you lost your collective minds.  we have no right, who bestows upon us the right, iran is no threat, iran wouldn't hurt anyone....what reality do you live in?  iran would kill every infidel in the world today if they could.  who is funding hezbollah?  who is killing our troops and iraqis?  who on almost a daily basis speaks of exterminating the jews?  they are telling the world and demonstrating to the world their intentions on a daily basis but you refuse to see, hear or speak to the obvious truth.  maybe if there is life after death we will all sit together on a cloud and sing kumbiya, but in the world we live the world that is our reality now, recognize the enemy and believe them when they tell you that it is you they most desire to kill.

[conley]

not ALL of us...your arguements would be more convincing if you didnt paint ALL of us with such a broad brush

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

kon lee on this issue you are the classic but monkey.  well it would be bad if iran had nukes but..... there are no buts on this issue.  a nuclear iran is a threat not just to us but everybody on this planet.  this is not the ussr, these boys embrace suicide as a means of spiritual nirvana. 

[A. Crowley]

reading the likes of ALL of you on this subject must be akin to watching the oxygen channel.  have you lost your collective minds.  we have no right, who bestows upon us the right, iran is no threat, iran wouldn't hurt anyone....what reality do you live in?  iran would kill every infidel in the world today if they could.  who is funding hezbollah?  who is killing our troops and iraqis?  who on almost a daily basis speaks of exterminating the jews?  they are telling the world and demonstrating to the world their intentions on a daily basis but you refuse to see, hear or speak to the obvious truth.  maybe if there is life after death we will all sit together on a cloud and sing kumbiya, but in the world we live the world that is our reality now, recognize the enemy and believe them when they tell you that it is you they most desire to kill.

None of your claims are true Grumpy...Not one. Iran seeks the liberation of Gaza, WB and E. Jerusalem, sure; but so does the rest of the weorld. It is Saudi's who represent the bulk of the "insurgentcy", and Ahmadinajad never did utter those words, even once. You cannot prove otherwise, and that's a fact. You are completely full of shit and Kool-Aid, and appear to have no brain. Say something you can substantiate, or STFU, Clone of Rove.

[conley]

reading the likes of ALL of you on this subject must be akin to watching the oxygen channel.  have you lost your collective minds.  we have no right, who bestows upon us the right, iran is no threat, iran wouldn't hurt anyone....what reality do you live in?  iran would kill every infidel in the world today if they could.  who is funding hezbollah?  who is killing our troops and iraqis?  who on almost a daily basis speaks of exterminating the jews?  they are telling the world and demonstrating to the world their intentions on a daily basis but you refuse to see, hear or speak to the obvious truth.  maybe if there is life after death we will all sit together on a cloud and sing kumbiya, but in the world we live the world that is our reality now, recognize the enemy and believe them when they tell you that it is you they most desire to kill.

None of your claims are true Grumpy...Not one. Iran seeks the liberation of Gaza, WB and E. Jerusalem, sure; but so does the rest of the weorld. It is Saudi's who represent the bulk of the "insurgentcy", and Ahmadinajad never did utter those words, even once. You cannot prove otherwise, and that's a fact. You are completely full of shit and Kool-Aid, and appear to have no brain. Say something you can substantiate, or STFU, Clone of Rove.

this made me laugh in a good way...also when you said clone of rove i was thinking clove of rome which made me want a clove cigarrette and a pizza

but anyway, i do agree with you that our governement if it was serious about the war on terror would go after the saudis, etc. the fact is that the current state profits both nations, at least those in power. if there were no hezbollah there would be no kbr either.

its the same thing with the "war on drugs" during reagan...there is a lot of money to be made and there's no rush to victory

[AC]

War on a noun.

Brilliant.

[conley]

War on a noun.

Brilliant.

just to make it clear i am not supporting the war on drugs or any other noun...

[conley]

War on a noun.

Brilliant.

ps this made me want to get a guiness beer

[AC]

[conley]

oh dang now i want a sierra nevada

what we were talking about?