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« on: July 29, 2008, 09:59:50 PM » |
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I understand this is coming out soon? I'm sure it will be unbiased  I thought Platoon was well done even if it was essentially propaganda. This new flick just looks awkward. I predict that the depiction of Bush's faith will be an appalling caricature.
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« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2008, 10:07:17 PM » |
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I think it’s going to be released sometime in October. I don’t have much respect for Oliver Stone. Didn’t this guy praise Fidel Castro once?
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« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2008, 10:09:03 PM » |
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I think it’s going to be released sometime in October. I don’t have much respect for Oliver Stone. Didn’t this guy praise Fidel Castro once?
All the hip cats praise Castro. You square or somethin', Mike? 
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« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2008, 10:10:28 PM » |
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I think it’s going to be released sometime in October. I don’t have much respect for Oliver Stone. Didn’t this guy praise Fidel Castro once?
All the hip cats praise Castro. You square or somethin', Mike?  No, Hugo Chavez is their favorite now. He thinks he’s the next Castro.
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« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2008, 10:22:23 PM » |
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2008, 06:08:28 AM » |
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I saw a clip on CNN about this movie yesterday. It's the first I remember hearing about it. From what I saw, it sucks and will probably bomb at the box office. The folks who think geedubya's farts don't stink won't watch it and the rest of the people are sick and tired of him and don't really give a rat's ass about him anymore.
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2008, 06:36:17 AM » |
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platoon was propoganda? i thought it was to make money...
i agree w/ gunit re the bush movie. at this point, who cares?
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 08:50:06 AM » |
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platoon was propoganda? i thought it was to make money...
i agree w/ gunit re the bush movie. at this point, who cares?
Can it make money and be propaganda at the same time? Platoon was an anti-war propaganda film.
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2008, 12:27:31 PM » |
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For instance, Stone's depiction of poor American morale may be reasonably accurate for the early 1970s but the movie takes place in 1967. US morale reached it's zenith in 1968. In other words, at the height of our involvement in Vietnam troop morale was high and Stone's portrayal of the attitudes of American servicemen is off and by a long shot. To be fair, Stone was not concerned with accuracy. He was concerned about driving his view of the Vietnam War home to his audience.
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2008, 12:47:22 PM » |
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Ahh, I see. If anything I thought it glorified war. Sure it was gore filled but those guys seemed like heroes to me. And there was the whole fictional battle between those two guys (Dafoe? and the other guy) which would probably have a bad effect on a unit. I really liked it.
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2008, 12:55:30 PM » |
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Ahh, I see. If anything I thought it glorified war. Sure it was gore filled but those guys seemed like heroes to me. And there was the whole fictional battle between those two guys (Dafoe? and the other guy) which would probably have a bad effect on a unit. I really liked it.
I can assure you it was not meant to glorify war. The clash between Barnes and Elias was supposed to represent a more general clash among US troops that simply did not exist at the time. I liked it too. The night combat scene is one of the best combat scenes ever, IMHO.
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