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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2008, 02:55:57 PM » |
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If a guy wants to get poked by another guy, that’s his business. If a girl wants to get a tongue-lashing from another girl, that’s her business.
One question you should all ask yourselves is…“How does two men having sex affect my personal life?” If you come to the shocking revelation that IT DOESN’T, you should probably shut up.
It doesn't and they know it. They claim it is bad, because it is a sin. And they then explain it is a sin, because procreation cannot be achieved. Then I will ask "Have you ever given or received oral sex?"--- The usual response is yes with my married partner only--My next question I pose is "Did you procreate?"---Is that not a sin, then too? And that usually ends the conversation. One last point and I will stop ranting- Since "Same Sex marriage" has adverse effects on the American Family-- Is it safe to assume that once we ban "same sex marriage" in every state that the divorce rate should decline tremendously.  Again, throughout human history the overwhelming majority of human societies have actively discouraged homosexual behavior and homosexual marriage was simply unthinkable.. It has about as much to do with religion as the prohibition against theft and murder.  Pssst...pagans hate gays too. 
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2008, 02:57:12 PM » |
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Mr. D, Why is homosexual behavior destructive? I don't see it as that.
Putting your penis in a man's anus is a very unhealthy act. I'd rather not get into this if you don't mind (insert disgusted emoticon).
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2008, 03:03:15 PM » |
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Well, history has nothing to do with it in my opinion. History also shows that slavery was acceptable, even promoted in this country. Based on your ideology, slavery should still be acceptable because it always has been in the past. Even the bible mentions slavery as a way of life! There is nothing destructive about homosexuality. It is NOT genetic. Perhaps the reason some family trees show it more than others is because of pride, and fear that suppressed homosexuals have of being who they are. There still exist plenty of these people today, and they are some of the saddest people I've heard of. sorry spunk but tex gotcha there lool
Oh, yeah, he sure did!! I almost fell off the chair laughing, with all of my eleven brothers standing here laughing with me.
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2008, 03:04:39 PM » |
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Mr. D, Why is homosexual behavior destructive? I don't see it as that.
Putting your penis in a man's anus is a very unhealthy act. I'd rather not get into this if you don't mind (insert disgusted emoticon). Unhealthy? No, please. Humor us. How is it unhealthy?
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2008, 03:05:05 PM » |
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I guess someone needs to ask "the Creator" why he/she chose to create a sinner defined his/her own dogma.
For the folks who believe this is choice, did you choose to be straight?
i asked the creator and he said that even god has a sense of humor 
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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2008, 03:07:35 PM » |
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I guess someone needs to ask "the Creator" why he/she chose to create a sinner defined his/her own dogma.
For the folks who believe this is choice, did you choose to be straight?
i asked the creator and he said that even god has a sense of humor  Sure. Why not. It's okay to laugh at gays. Better to laugh at them than to suppress them I think.
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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2008, 03:47:34 PM » |
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It's amazing how times change. Up until the early 1970s homosexuality was diagnosed as a mental illness thus legitimating the claim that people are born gay. Homosexuals worked for this change and got it. Now they want to insist that people are born gay again?  What gives?
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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2008, 03:50:34 PM » |
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The mental illness of homosexuality is about as ridiculous as a mental illness of Christianity.
People are born gay. Why would anybody WANT or CHOOSE to be something that everybody seems to hate?
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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2008, 03:54:37 PM » |
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The mental illness of homosexuality is about as ridiculous as a mental illness of Christianity.
People are born gay. Why would anybody WANT or CHOOSE to be something that everybody seems to hate?
You just said it wasn't genetic?  Furthermore, there is no question that it is a disorder of some kind.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2008, 03:57:12 PM » |
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The mental illness of homosexuality is about as ridiculous as a mental illness of Christianity.
People are born gay. Why would anybody WANT or CHOOSE to be something that everybody seems to hate?
This isn't what you meant to say but yes I think religiosity is in our DNA.
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« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2008, 04:00:07 PM » |
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DNA instructs cells how to make protein. It doesn't instruct your brain to believe in God, or to be gay.
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« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2008, 04:01:40 PM » |
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There may be trends which favor the adverse opinion, but DNA has almost nothing to do with our mental identities.
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« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2008, 04:05:43 PM » |
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DNA instructs cells how to make protein. It doesn't instruct your brain to believe in God, or to be gay.
Spunk, you're just being silly now. I won't dignify this with a response.
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« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2008, 04:13:12 PM » |
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Did I miss something? It is true. DNA only tells your cells how to make protein. There is no code that tells your body to be religious, gay, happy, sad, etc. That is all psychology. not genetics.
However, some mental disorders HAVE been found to be genetic--but homosexuality is not one of them. It's all psychology.
In either case, DNA or psychology, these are both fields which we are very in the dark about. We cannot pinpoint the reasons why people are the way they are, so let's not punish them for it.
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« Reply #29 on: May 31, 2008, 04:19:35 PM » |
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Did I miss something? It is true. DNA only tells your cells how to make protein. There is no code that tells your body to be religious, gay, happy, sad, etc. That is all psychology. not genetics.
However, some mental disorders HAVE been found to be genetic--but homosexuality is not one of them. It's all psychology.
In either case, DNA or psychology, these are both fields which we are very in the dark about. We cannot pinpoint the reasons why people are the way they are, so let's not punish them for it.
Your genes are strands DNA. Your genes will determine quite a bit about you and affect things like personality. Homosexuality is some kind of disorder whether or not you are born with it. If, as you say, it is simply a mental disorder one is not born with than it stands to reason that one can be cured. Get it now?
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