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conley
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« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2008, 08:09:39 PM »

these days conservatives would rather send the 19 yr old inner city kid off to crack someone's head rather than do it themselves like a real man

armchair generals and a bunch of pu55i3s

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I was thinking we could make draft age males responsible for our foreign policy. Makes sense, right? Thye would be the ones going to war. Yeah, hat would ensure world peace. I wish all nations were run by males between the ages of 18 and 26. Now that is a recipe for world peace.

or you could actually listen to the generals and high ranking officers, unlike bush and rumsfeld

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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2008, 08:10:10 PM »

There are a lot (certainly not all) of young marines and army men in Iraq and Afghanistan who like combat.  You certainly don’t want them in charge of your foreign policy- at least until they mellow out some.  
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« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2008, 08:16:20 PM »

Spunk, Conley...take note of Bored's wisdom.

I think that is the worst piece of advice I have ever heard.  No offense.

"Go back to sleep."
No thanks.  I'm wide awake now, and I know how things SHOULD be--and I hate when people use history to justify that wars are "normal".  I can't do that with racism or poverty or homosexuals or drugs or any other leftist issues--so neither can anybody else. Fair is fair.

When I was young I was full of hate against people for hating each other. Wars and violence and crimes made me want to take a bat to someones head. The world is a cruel and horrible place. It wasn't until...well... I became a right-winger when all those feelings went away Huh

Well, now you have the cure Grin;D;D

I don't understand.  What is it about the right wing that keeps them shut away from the horrors of the world?  Did things suddenly become justifiable to you or did you learn to ignore them?  Did you shut your eyes and only worry about your own life?  What do they put in your water to make you okay with it?  I would feel so wrong about that.


There are a lot (certainly not all) of young marines and army men in Iraq and Afghanistan who like combat.  You certainly don’t want them in charge of your foreign policy- at least until they mellow out some.  

You're right about that.
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« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2008, 08:25:34 PM »

There are a lot (certainly not all) of young marines and army men in Iraq and Afghanistan who like combat.  You certainly don’t want them in charge of your foreign policy- at least until they mellow out some.  

 Cheesy You know my comment was sarcasm, I hope.  Grin

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« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2008, 08:30:53 PM »

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and I hate when people use history to justify that wars are "normal".  I can't do that with racism or poverty or homosexuals or drugs or any other leftist issues--so neither can anybody else. Fair is fair.

No one used history to justify wars. Do you do this deliberately?

Racism, drugs, faggotry, and poverty are leftist issues? Well, you are right to acknowledge that it would be wrong to justify poverty by saying that's it's always been there but you would be correct in suggesting that the poor will always be with us.
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« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2008, 08:45:34 PM »


No one used history to justify wars. Do you do this deliberately?

As a matter of fact, you have used history to justify many things to me including wars and anti-homosexuality.  Your argument is usually a sub-tone that it "worked back then and it will work like that forever.  Deal with it."
 (although you did not actually say those words)

It will take me forever to find those posts, but if you insist that I should, I will devote my time to it.

You can spare me the effort, and yourself the humility, by just admitting it.
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« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2008, 08:47:52 PM »

only mister d would rather use slurs than write out the word 'homosexuality'. it makes him feel like more of a man i guess  Huh
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« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2008, 08:56:09 PM »

only mister d would rather use slurs than write out the word 'homosexuality'. it makes him feel like more of a man i guess  Huh

Pathetically, he is not alone in that.  It's probably what grants him the gumption to do so.
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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2008, 09:00:20 PM »


No one used history to justify wars. Do you do this deliberately?

As a matter of fact, you have used history to justify many things to me including wars and anti-homosexuality.  Your argument is usually a sub-tone that it "worked back then and it will work like that forever.  Deal with it."
 (although you did not actually say those words)

It will take me forever to find those posts, but if you insist that I should, I will devote my time to it.

You can spare me the effort, and yourself the humility, by just admitting it.

Accepting the reality of something (i.e. "deal with it") is not to offer a justification for it. Again, do you abuse language deliberately or do you not understand the differences between some words in our language?
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« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2008, 09:01:31 PM »

only mister d would rather use slurs than write out the word 'homosexuality'. it makes him feel like more of a man i guess  Huh

Uh yeah...like Mr. D does that all the time... Huh
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« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2008, 09:06:50 PM »

only mister d would rather use slurs than write out the word 'homosexuality'. it makes him feel like more of a man i guess  Huh

Pathetically, he is not alone in that.  It's probably what grants him the gumption to do so.

English major?
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« Reply #26 on: July 22, 2008, 10:48:02 AM »

I don't understand.  What is it about the right wing that keeps them shut away from the horrors of the world?  Did things suddenly become justifiable to you or did you learn to ignore them?  Did you shut your eyes and only worry about your own life?  What do they put in your water to make you okay with it?  I would feel so wrong about that.

Yes, I was put into water. Grin

Peter has it right:

Well, you will certainly be happier in life if you don't expect people to act in a manner contrary to their nature. 

You do not shut away form the horrors of the world at all. But you realize that people cannot be perfect no matter how much you tell them and try to convince them otherwise. The best you can do is help them help themselves. Though, you should worry about your own life and those around you. Family, friends and fellow Americans. It doesn't make you selfish for not putting others before yourself. You're just doing what is natural. In my opinion.

Sorry that this is so poorly written. I have a ton of work to do and cannot focus on this right now to do better. I'm sure the topic will come up again when I can better prepare my argument.
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« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2008, 11:26:15 AM »


You do not shut away form the horrors of the world at all. But you realize that people cannot be perfect no matter how much you tell them and try to convince them otherwise. The best you can do is help them help themselves. Though, you should worry about your own life and those around you. Family, friends and fellow Americans. It doesn't make you selfish for not putting others before yourself. You're just doing what is natural. In my opinion.



This is what being a conservative use to mean. 
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« Reply #28 on: July 22, 2008, 11:28:25 AM »


No one used history to justify wars. Do you do this deliberately?

As a matter of fact, you have used history to justify many things to me including wars and anti-homosexuality.  Your argument is usually a sub-tone that it "worked back then and it will work like that forever.  Deal with it."
 (although you did not actually say those words)

It will take me forever to find those posts, but if you insist that I should, I will devote my time to it.

You can spare me the effort, and yourself the humility, by just admitting it.

Accepting the reality of something (i.e. "deal with it") is not to offer a justification for it. Again, do you abuse language deliberately or do you not understand the differences between some words in our language?
So you admit it.  Thanks.
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« Reply #29 on: July 22, 2008, 12:12:05 PM »


You do not shut away form the horrors of the world at all. But you realize that people cannot be perfect no matter how much you tell them and try to convince them otherwise. The best you can do is help them help themselves. Though, you should worry about your own life and those around you. Family, friends and fellow Americans. It doesn't make you selfish for not putting others before yourself. You're just doing what is natural. In my opinion.



This is what being a conservative use to mean. 

Damn right. That's why I chose to refer to myself as a right-winger as opposed to a Conservative.
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