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« on: July 05, 2008, 07:45:53 PM »

I'm going to give you a truncated list of my beliefs and such…and then I'll get to the main point…

1.   I am pro-life and would support a nationwide ban on abortion except in cases of rape and when the life of the mother is in danger.
2.   I oppose affirmative action.
3.   I oppose gay marriage and would support a nationwide ban on gay marriage.
4.   I support student prayer, but oppose the teaching of one religion in public schools.
5.   I support the death penalty and mandatory sentencing laws.
6.   I support gun rights.
7.   I support moving towards a system of universal health care.
8.   I oppose the privatization of Social Security and school vouchers.
9.   I support the War on Drugs, welfare reform and faith-based initiatives.
10.   I support restoring Clinton-era tax rates.
11.   I support sealing the border and oppose any Orwellian "comprehensive immigration reform" plan that puts illegal immigrants in the front of the line and forces law-abiding immigrants to wait even longer for citizenship.
12.   I oppose free trade and firmly believe in the principal of "Buy American or 'bye-'bye America."
13.   I oppose campaign finance reform on the grounds that it violates the First Amendment.
14.   I support ending the war in Iraq and increasing troop levels in Afghanistan.

And I'm a Democrat. I don't feel like I belong anymore. My party has been hijacked by extremists…and I can't stand it.

Should I become a Republican? Should I become an independent? Should I abandon the party I registered to join the day I was eligible?
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« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2008, 09:12:41 PM »

I believe almost the same. I am an old school democrat and now have no party. Even the right has moved to the left.  Sad
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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2008, 09:21:47 PM »

I'm going to give you a truncated list of my beliefs and such…and then I'll get to the main point…

1.   I am pro-life and would support a nationwide ban on abortion except in cases of rape and when the life of the mother is in danger.
I am pro-life too.  But I am pro-abortion when a woman wants to have one.  Banning is unconstitutional, and would be expensive.
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2.   I oppose affirmative action.
I had to look this one up.  No comment.

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3.   I oppose gay marriage and would support a nationwide ban on gay marriage.
A nationwide ban on gay marriage would be unconstitutional, as would any other doctrine sanctioning marriage.

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4.   I support student prayer, but oppose the teaching of one religion in public schools.

I agree with this--but what is supporting student prayer?  Are students punished for praying in school?

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5.   I support the death penalty and mandatory sentencing laws.

Hmm.

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6.   I support gun rights.
Me too.

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7.   I support moving towards a system of universal health care.

Well this is definitely a lefty thing, although I no longer support it--because I know insurance companies will turn our country into a prison if it does.

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8.   I oppose the privatization of Social Security and school vouchers.

Me too.

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9.   I support the War on Drugs, welfare reform and faith-based initiatives.

The war on drugs is also not capitalized.  And it is a waste of money, and a war against our own people for doing their own thing.  Welfare reform is a good idea, and so are faith-based initiatives.

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10.   I support restoring Clinton-era tax rates.

Cool.

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11.   I support sealing the border and oppose any Orwellian "comprehensive immigration reform" plan that puts illegal immigrants in the front of the line and forces law-abiding immigrants to wait even longer for citizenship.

"Orwellian?"

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12.   I oppose free trade and firmly believe in the principal of "Buy American or 'bye-'bye America."

Ok

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13.   I oppose campaign finance reform on the grounds that it violates the First Amendment.

Ok

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14.   I support ending the war in Iraq and increasing troop levels in Afghanistan.

Awesome!
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And I'm a Democrat. I don't feel like I belong anymore. My party has been hijacked by extremists…and I can't stand it.

Should I become a Republican? Should I become an independent? Should I abandon the party I registered to join the day I was eligible?

Be independent, it is more honest, and in my opinion, patriotic.
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Sometimes, when the news is on and showing the war, I wish bullets would rip out of our hi-def screens and shatter everything this institution has shoved down our throats.

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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2008, 10:55:37 PM »

I'm going to give you a truncated list of my beliefs and such…and then I'll get to the main point…

1.   I am pro-life and would support a nationwide ban on abortion except in cases of rape and when the life of the mother is in danger.
2.   I oppose affirmative action.
3.   I oppose gay marriage and would support a nationwide ban on gay marriage.
4.   I support student prayer, but oppose the teaching of one religion in public schools.
5.   I support the death penalty and mandatory sentencing laws.
6.   I support gun rights.
7.   I support moving towards a system of universal health care.
8.   I oppose the privatization of Social Security and school vouchers.
9.   I support the War on Drugs, welfare reform and faith-based initiatives.
10.   I support restoring Clinton-era tax rates.
11.   I support sealing the border and oppose any Orwellian "comprehensive immigration reform" plan that puts illegal immigrants in the front of the line and forces law-abiding immigrants to wait even longer for citizenship.
12.   I oppose free trade and firmly believe in the principal of "Buy American or 'bye-'bye America."
13.   I oppose campaign finance reform on the grounds that it violates the First Amendment.
14.   I support ending the war in Iraq and increasing troop levels in Afghanistan.

And I'm a Democrat. I don't feel like I belong anymore. My party has been hijacked by extremists…and I can't stand it.

Should I become a Republican? Should I become an independent? Should I abandon the party I registered to join the day I was eligible?
I agree with it all......I am an independent as i hold no loyalties to any one party..I vote strictly by who i think will be in my best interest..and the country of course.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2008, 06:44:26 AM »

you all belong in straight jackets Wink
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2008, 11:50:50 AM »

you all belong in straight jackets Wink

OOOOH Grump. stop saying those things. Your getting me so stirred up  Shocked I think I'm falling in love.  Wink You are so powerful,and domineering . Kiss Kiss
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2008, 12:13:45 PM »

you all belong in straight jackets Wink

OOOOH Grump. stop saying those things. Your getting me so stirred up  Shocked I think I'm falling in love.  Wink You are so powerful,and domineering . Kiss Kiss

Grump and pitty in a straight jacket for two.  Wink
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Sometimes, when the news is on and showing the war, I wish bullets would rip out of our hi-def screens and shatter everything this institution has shoved down our throats.

Believing the world can be a better place is greater than the beliefs in all deities combined--times infinity.

--Spunkloaf
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2008, 02:22:53 PM »

I'm going to give you a truncated list of my beliefs and such…and then I'll get to the main point…

1.   I am pro-life and would support a nationwide ban on abortion except in cases of rape and when the life of the mother is in danger.
I am pro-life too.  But I am pro-abortion when a woman wants to have one.  Banning is unconstitutional, and would be expensive.
Quote
2.   I oppose affirmative action.
I had to look this one up.  No comment.

Quote
3.   I oppose gay marriage and would support a nationwide ban on gay marriage.
A nationwide ban on gay marriage would be unconstitutional, as would any other doctrine sanctioning marriage.

Quote
4.   I support student prayer, but oppose the teaching of one religion in public schools.

I agree with this--but what is supporting student prayer?  Are students punished for praying in school?

Quote
5.   I support the death penalty and mandatory sentencing laws.

Hmm.

Quote
6.   I support gun rights.
Me too.

Quote
7.   I support moving towards a system of universal health care.

Well this is definitely a lefty thing, although I no longer support it--because I know insurance companies will turn our country into a prison if it does.

Quote
8.   I oppose the privatization of Social Security and school vouchers.

Me too.

Quote
9.   I support the War on Drugs, welfare reform and faith-based initiatives.

The war on drugs is also not capitalized.  And it is a waste of money, and a war against our own people for doing their own thing.  Welfare reform is a good idea, and so are faith-based initiatives.

Quote
10.   I support restoring Clinton-era tax rates.

Cool.

Quote
11.   I support sealing the border and oppose any Orwellian "comprehensive immigration reform" plan that puts illegal immigrants in the front of the line and forces law-abiding immigrants to wait even longer for citizenship.

"Orwellian?"

Quote
12.   I oppose free trade and firmly believe in the principal of "Buy American or 'bye-'bye America."

Ok

Quote
13.   I oppose campaign finance reform on the grounds that it violates the First Amendment.

Ok

Quote
14.   I support ending the war in Iraq and increasing troop levels in Afghanistan.

Awesome!
Quote

And I'm a Democrat. I don't feel like I belong anymore. My party has been hijacked by extremists…and I can't stand it.

Should I become a Republican? Should I become an independent? Should I abandon the party I registered to join the day I was eligible?

Be independent, it is more honest, and in my opinion, patriotic.
2 of the same sex cannot make a baby so why should they have the same rights as those who can? As for affirmative action, why should a person go to college or get a certain job because they are black and not qualified? Don't you think it is better to use birth control rather then kill a baby? If affirmative action is ok with you, then so should universal heathcare.
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2008, 03:15:57 PM »

I'm going to give you a truncated list of my beliefs and such…and then I'll get to the main point…

1.   I am pro-life and would support a nationwide ban on abortion except in cases of rape and when the life of the mother is in danger.
I am pro-life too.  But I am pro-abortion when a woman wants to have one.  Banning is unconstitutional, and would be expensive.
Quote
2.   I oppose affirmative action.
I had to look this one up.  No comment.

Quote
3.   I oppose gay marriage and would support a nationwide ban on gay marriage.
A nationwide ban on gay marriage would be unconstitutional, as would any other doctrine sanctioning marriage.

Quote
4.   I support student prayer, but oppose the teaching of one religion in public schools.

I agree with this--but what is supporting student prayer?  Are students punished for praying in school?

Quote
5.   I support the death penalty and mandatory sentencing laws.

Hmm.

Quote
6.   I support gun rights.
Me too.

Quote
7.   I support moving towards a system of universal health care.

Well this is definitely a lefty thing, although I no longer support it--because I know insurance companies will turn our country into a prison if it does.

Quote
8.   I oppose the privatization of Social Security and school vouchers.

Me too.

Quote
9.   I support the War on Drugs, welfare reform and faith-based initiatives.

The war on drugs is also not capitalized.  And it is a waste of money, and a war against our own people for doing their own thing.  Welfare reform is a good idea, and so are faith-based initiatives.

Quote
10.   I support restoring Clinton-era tax rates.

Cool.

Quote
11.   I support sealing the border and oppose any Orwellian "comprehensive immigration reform" plan that puts illegal immigrants in the front of the line and forces law-abiding immigrants to wait even longer for citizenship.

"Orwellian?"

Quote
12.   I oppose free trade and firmly believe in the principal of "Buy American or 'bye-'bye America."

Ok

Quote
13.   I oppose campaign finance reform on the grounds that it violates the First Amendment.

Ok

Quote
14.   I support ending the war in Iraq and increasing troop levels in Afghanistan.

Awesome!
Quote

And I'm a Democrat. I don't feel like I belong anymore. My party has been hijacked by extremists…and I can't stand it.

Should I become a Republican? Should I become an independent? Should I abandon the party I registered to join the day I was eligible?

Be independent, it is more honest, and in my opinion, patriotic.
2 of the same sex cannot make a baby so why should they have the same rights as those who can? As for affirmative action, why should a person go to college or get a certain job because they are black and not qualified? Don't you think it is better to use birth control rather then kill a baby? If affirmative action is ok with you, then so should universal heathcare.

Noobs.  Look at my post again, and then try shooting your mouth off again.

I did not say I opposed nor supported affirmative action.  As a matter of fact, I said I had no idea what it is and I had to look it up.


As far as you gay issues are concerned, marriage has nothing to do with producing a baby.  If it did, there would be a law requiring it and every married couple who doesn't produce children (by choice or by condition) would have their marriage license revoked.

You ask why these people should have the same rights as those people.  Because they are American citizens and they both pay taxes.

What is your beef against gay marriage?  How does it hurt this country
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Sometimes, when the news is on and showing the war, I wish bullets would rip out of our hi-def screens and shatter everything this institution has shoved down our throats.

Believing the world can be a better place is greater than the beliefs in all deities combined--times infinity.

--Spunkloaf
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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2008, 06:07:03 PM »

I'm going to give you a truncated list of my beliefs and such…and then I'll get to the main point…

1.   I am pro-life and would support a nationwide ban on abortion except in cases of rape and when the life of the mother is in danger.
I am pro-life too.  But I am pro-abortion when a woman wants to have one.  Banning is unconstitutional, and would be expensive.
Quote
2.   I oppose affirmative action.
I had to look this one up.  No comment.

Quote
3.   I oppose gay marriage and would support a nationwide ban on gay marriage.
A nationwide ban on gay marriage would be unconstitutional, as would any other doctrine sanctioning marriage.

Quote
4.   I support student prayer, but oppose the teaching of one religion in public schools.

I agree with this--but what is supporting student prayer?  Are students punished for praying in school?

Quote
5.   I support the death penalty and mandatory sentencing laws.

Hmm.

Quote
6.   I support gun rights.
Me too.

Quote
7.   I support moving towards a system of universal health care.

Well this is definitely a lefty thing, although I no longer support it--because I know insurance companies will turn our country into a prison if it does.

Quote
8.   I oppose the privatization of Social Security and school vouchers.

Me too.

Quote
9.   I support the War on Drugs, welfare reform and faith-based initiatives.

The war on drugs is also not capitalized.  And it is a waste of money, and a war against our own people for doing their own thing.  Welfare reform is a good idea, and so are faith-based initiatives.

Quote
10.   I support restoring Clinton-era tax rates.

Cool.

Quote
11.   I support sealing the border and oppose any Orwellian "comprehensive immigration reform" plan that puts illegal immigrants in the front of the line and forces law-abiding immigrants to wait even longer for citizenship.

"Orwellian?"

Quote
12.   I oppose free trade and firmly believe in the principal of "Buy American or 'bye-'bye America."

Ok

Quote
13.   I oppose campaign finance reform on the grounds that it violates the First Amendment.

Ok

Quote
14.   I support ending the war in Iraq and increasing troop levels in Afghanistan.

Awesome!
Quote

And I'm a Democrat. I don't feel like I belong anymore. My party has been hijacked by extremists…and I can't stand it.

Should I become a Republican? Should I become an independent? Should I abandon the party I registered to join the day I was eligible?

Be independent, it is more honest, and in my opinion, patriotic.
2 of the same sex cannot make a baby so why should they have the same rights as those who can? As for affirmative action, why should a person go to college or get a certain job because they are black and not qualified? Don't you think it is better to use birth control rather then kill a baby? If affirmative action is ok with you, then so should universal heathcare.

Noobs.  Look at my post again, and then try shooting your mouth off again.

I did not say I opposed nor supported affirmative action.  As a matter of fact, I said I had no idea what it is and I had to look it up.


As far as you gay issues are concerned, marriage has nothing to do with producing a baby.  If it did, there would be a law requiring it and every married couple who doesn't produce children (by choice or by condition) would have their marriage license revoked.

You ask why these people should have the same rights as those people.  Because they are American citizens and they both pay taxes.

What is your beef against gay marriage?  How does it hurt this country
LOL..you said..no comment..just like no contest, you are still admitting guilt..it is you that does way too much flapping of the gums..Yes, marriage is almost always to carry out Gods plan of replenishing the earth..why the hell do you think we care about endangered spieces of animals? I do not think that ppl who choose to do what was not intended and is according to almost every religions bible, an abomination, should have the same rights..They pay taxes as a human being, but that doesn't give them the right to marry. Listen up spunky...you have a real lot to learn and would still never catch up.
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2008, 06:09:35 PM »

There spunk, I gave you another point.  Smiley I mean applaud!!!
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2008, 07:34:54 PM »

I'm hated by both the left and the right. Where do I belong?  Sad
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2008, 07:38:49 PM »

Any joiners? LOL
http://www.mensa.org/
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2008, 09:09:08 PM »

I'm hated by both the left and the right. Where do I belong?  Sad
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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2008, 10:50:21 PM »

I'm going to give you a truncated list of my beliefs and such…and then I'll get to the main point…

1.   I am pro-life and would support a nationwide ban on abortion except in cases of rape and when the life of the mother is in danger.
I am pro-life too.  But I am pro-abortion when a woman wants to have one.  Banning is unconstitutional, and would be expensive.
Quote
2.   I oppose affirmative action.
I had to look this one up.  No comment.

Quote
3.   I oppose gay marriage and would support a nationwide ban on gay marriage.
A nationwide ban on gay marriage would be unconstitutional, as would any other doctrine sanctioning marriage.

Quote
4.   I support student prayer, but oppose the teaching of one religion in public schools.

I agree with this--but what is supporting student prayer?  Are students punished for praying in school?

Quote
5.   I support the death penalty and mandatory sentencing laws.

Hmm.

Quote
6.   I support gun rights.
Me too.

Quote
7.   I support moving towards a system of universal health care.

Well this is definitely a lefty thing, although I no longer support it--because I know insurance companies will turn our country into a prison if it does.

Quote
8.   I oppose the privatization of Social Security and school vouchers.

Me too.

Quote
9.   I support the War on Drugs, welfare reform and faith-based initiatives.

The war on drugs is also not capitalized.  And it is a waste of money, and a war against our own people for doing their own thing.  Welfare reform is a good idea, and so are faith-based initiatives.

Quote
10.   I support restoring Clinton-era tax rates.

Cool.

Quote
11.   I support sealing the border and oppose any Orwellian "comprehensive immigration reform" plan that puts illegal immigrants in the front of the line and forces law-abiding immigrants to wait even longer for citizenship.

"Orwellian?"

Quote
12.   I oppose free trade and firmly believe in the principal of "Buy American or 'bye-'bye America."

Ok

Quote
13.   I oppose campaign finance reform on the grounds that it violates the First Amendment.

Ok

Quote
14.   I support ending the war in Iraq and increasing troop levels in Afghanistan.

Awesome!
Quote

And I'm a Democrat. I don't feel like I belong anymore. My party has been hijacked by extremists…and I can't stand it.

Should I become a Republican? Should I become an independent? Should I abandon the party I registered to join the day I was eligible?

Be independent, it is more honest, and in my opinion, patriotic.
2 of the same sex cannot make a baby so why should they have the same rights as those who can? As for affirmative action, why should a person go to college or get a certain job because they are black and not qualified? Don't you think it is better to use birth control rather then kill a baby? If affirmative action is ok with you, then so should universal heathcare.

Noobs.  Look at my post again, and then try shooting your mouth off again.

I did not say I opposed nor supported affirmative action.  As a matter of fact, I said I had no idea what it is and I had to look it up.


As far as you gay issues are concerned, marriage has nothing to do with producing a baby.  If it did, there would be a law requiring it and every married couple who doesn't produce children (by choice or by condition) would have their marriage license revoked.

You ask why these people should have the same rights as those people.  Because they are American citizens and they both pay taxes.

What is your beef against gay marriage?  How does it hurt this country
LOL..you said..no comment..just like no contest, you are still admitting guilt..
Guilty of what?  Not knowing about something, and then choosing not to comment on it because of that?
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it is you that does way too much flapping of the gums..Yes, marriage is almost always to carry out Gods plan of replenishing the earth..why the hell do you think we care about endangered spieces of animals? I do not think that ppl who choose to do what was not intended and is according to almost every religions bible, an abomination, should have the same rights..They pay taxes as a human being, but that doesn't give them the right to marry.
Thanks.  I was waiting for somebody to admit that abortion is all about religion.
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Listen up spunky...you have a real lot to learn and would still never catch up.
mmkay, you sure put me in my place.

Anybody intelligent care to speculate?
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Sometimes, when the news is on and showing the war, I wish bullets would rip out of our hi-def screens and shatter everything this institution has shoved down our throats.

Believing the world can be a better place is greater than the beliefs in all deities combined--times infinity.

--Spunkloaf
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