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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2008, 03:32:10 PM » |
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if powell wanted office why not run for prez? he'd win in a landslide imo
He may get high poll ratings now- just as Obama did when he was fresh and unknown. Once a politician’s views and policy positions are known their numbers drop. Powell is already well known and has a heroic aura of the Ike variety. OswaldTheOsprey Agreed he would start out with high approval ratings. The only mystery is how much they will drop as his policy views become public. Possibly, but his credentials are hard to beat. OswaldTheOsprey
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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2008, 03:35:03 PM » |
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if powell wanted office why not run for prez? he'd win in a landslide imo
He may get high poll ratings now- just as Obama did when he was fresh and unknown. Once a politician’s views and policy positions are known their numbers drop. Powell is already well known and has a heroic aura of the Ike variety. OswaldTheOsprey Agreed he would start out with high approval ratings. The only mystery is how much they will drop as his policy views become public. Possibly, but his credentials are hard to beat. OswaldTheOsprey His credentials prove that he is an excellent manager and diplomat. We know nothing of his political polices on any issue, much less key issues.
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« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2008, 03:47:19 PM » |
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if powell wanted office why not run for prez? he'd win in a landslide imo
He may get high poll ratings now- just as Obama did when he was fresh and unknown. Once a politician’s views and policy positions are known their numbers drop. Powell is already well known and has a heroic aura of the Ike variety. OswaldTheOsprey Agreed he would start out with high approval ratings. The only mystery is how much they will drop as his policy views become public. Possibly, but his credentials are hard to beat. OswaldTheOsprey His credentials prove that he is an excellent manager and diplomat. We know nothing of his political polices on any issue, much less key issues. He ran briefly in 1996-it seems (if memory serves) he was a moderately conservative but not of the religious right. If someone knows better please advise. OswaldTheOsprey
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« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2008, 04:17:07 PM » |
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I believe if Powell ran for president he would win easily. I have always had a good feeling about him, so has everyone I speak to.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2008, 04:18:40 PM » |
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I believe if Powell ran for president he would win easily. I have always had a good feeling about him, so has everyone I speak to.
Powell would probably win hands down in a landslide. OswaldTheOsprey
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« Reply #20 on: August 24, 2008, 04:28:14 PM » |
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There's even a rumor out there that McCain wants Petraeus as VP. Several GOP officials said the campaign was preparing for an “unconventional” nominee, an indication that oft-mentioned former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, an abortion-rights supporter, or Connecticut Democrat-turned-independent Sen. Joe Lieberman still could be in the running. That category also could include non-politicians whom McCain deeply admires, such as Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq.I don't think Petraeus would give up his career for politics. http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/23/vp-ball-now-in-mccains-court/
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« Reply #21 on: August 24, 2008, 04:31:50 PM » |
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There's even a rumor out there that McCain wants Petraeus as VP. Several GOP officials said the campaign was preparing for an “unconventional” nominee, an indication that oft-mentioned former Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Ridge, an abortion-rights supporter, or Connecticut Democrat-turned-independent Sen. Joe Lieberman still could be in the running. That category also could include non-politicians whom McCain deeply admires, such as Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. commander in Iraq.I don't think Petraeus would give up his career for politics. http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/23/vp-ball-now-in-mccains-court/Especially for the second slot. OswaldTheOsprey
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« Reply #22 on: August 24, 2008, 04:48:45 PM » |
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And there is a fair chance that Petraus is a democrat. He was asked about the relative lack of democrats in the Military and his only response was you would be surprised- win a grin. And regarding Powell- I still maintain that his poll numbers are high precisely because he is not on the record with specific policies. America is close to 50-50 left-right. Powell will alienate some of these people if he provided policy positions. It is common sense. I suspect that Powell is in the center (right or left, I am not sure), so he would alienate the core of both parties and really alienate the freaks on both sides.
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« Reply #23 on: August 24, 2008, 04:54:38 PM » |
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And there is a fair chance that Petraus is a democrat. He was asked about the relative lack of democrats in the Military and his only response was you would be surprised- win a grin. And regarding Powell- I still maintain that his poll numbers are high precisely because he is not on the record with specific policies. America is close to 50-50 left-right. Powell will alienate some of these people if he provided policy positions. It is common sense. I suspect that Powell is in the center (right or left, I am not sure), so he would alienate the core of both parties and really alienate the freaks on both sides.
Almost any candidate of either party would upset "the freaks". OswaldTheOsprey
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« Reply #24 on: August 24, 2008, 04:58:17 PM » |
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i am of the mind that presidential candidates invariably drift toward the center to try to get the maximum number of votes. in powell's case it would help him to be a centrist -- in my opinion -- not only because he would appeal to the greatest numbers but also because it would appear he started in the middle as well. not like obama who started far left and is suddenly making a sprint toward the center.
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« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2008, 05:01:40 PM » |
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Does anyone know Powell’s views on abortion?
Once they are known he is going to lose a lot of support from one of the two sides.
Does anyone know his views on the proper role of the federal government? Does anyone know his views on taxation?
These big issues will only result in his poll numbers dropping once his positions are known. This does not mean that he couldn’t win; it only means that no man will be held in has high regard in the abstract as when his policy positions are on the table.
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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2008, 05:06:24 PM » |
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Does anyone know Powell’s views on abortion?
Once they are known he is going to lose a lot of support from one of the two sides.
Does anyone know his views on the proper role of the federal government? Does anyone know his views on taxation?
These big issues will only result in his poll numbers dropping once his positions are known. This does not mean that he couldn’t win; it only means that no man will be held in has high regard in the abstract as when his policy positions are on the table.
I'm not sure about the rest, but Powell is pro-choice.
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« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2008, 05:51:23 AM » |
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I wouldn't be too sure about st. petraus' political ambitions. Last year when he was getting ready to give his big speech before congress, some bloggers did some research and found a lot of comments on military blogs ... seems like the lower level soldiers didn't think a whole lot about petraus. They are the ones who actually coined the phrase "betrayus" (that's where moveon got the phrase). Seems like he fancies himself as a modern day Ike and that he really does want to run for president some day.
So it wouldn't surprise me if McSame picks him.
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« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2008, 10:37:06 AM » |
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Does anyone know Powell’s views on abortion?
Once they are known he is going to lose a lot of support from one of the two sides.
Does anyone know his views on the proper role of the federal government? Does anyone know his views on taxation?
These big issues will only result in his poll numbers dropping once his positions are known. This does not mean that he couldn’t win; it only means that no man will be held in has high regard in the abstract as when his policy positions are on the table.
I'm not sure about the rest, but Powell is pro-choice. Why is killing babies a priority for Democrats?
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« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2008, 10:42:00 AM » |
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I wouldn't be too sure about st. petraus' political ambitions. Last year when he was getting ready to give his big speech before congress, some bloggers did some research and found a lot of comments on military blogs ... seems like the lower level soldiers didn't think a whole lot about petraus. They are the ones who actually coined the phrase "betrayus" (that's where moveon got the phrase). Seems like he fancies himself as a modern day Ike and that he really does want to run for president some day.
So it wouldn't surprise me if McSame picks him.
Democrats created the term "Betrayus" because General Petraeus told the "truth" about the Al Qaida being defeated in Iraq. Democrats feel betrayed!
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