Hey a real look at Obama.....Interesting

[trex]

New book coming out on Obama in August offering a real look into Obamas voting record and other issues as well.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080623/ts_alt_afp/usvoteobamabook

 The Politico -- Swift Boat publisher has Obama book in works: "The same publisher that distributed the 2004 best-seller that took aim at John Kerry's  Vietnam service is planning a summer release of what's scheduled to be the first critical book on Barack Obama. Conservative journalist David Freddoso's The Case Against Barack Obama will offer 'a comprehensive, factual look at Obama,' according to Regnery Publishing President and Publisher Marjory Ross. But the book's subtitle makes clear its perspective: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media’s Favorite Candidate." The book is to be published Aug. 4.

[trex]

No comments on the forthcoming book......afraid of the contents or fallout?

[conley]

I would be more interested in it if it weren't by the Swift Boat guy. The whole Swift Boat issue to me was good evidence of how nasty politics can get. I do believe there is plenty to criticise obama about, i just dont want to read an entire book written by someone who obviously has a political agenda. i'll read excerpts tho    i'm sure this is just the first of many books to take a critical look at obama

[trex]

I would be more interested in it if it weren't by the Swift Boat guy. The whole Swift Boat issue to me was good evidence of how nasty politics can get. I do believe there is plenty to criticise obama about, i just dont want to read an entire book written by someone who obviously has a political agenda. i'll read excerpts tho    i'm sure this is just the first of many books to take a critical look at obama

If the information contained within the pages are true then fine....I particualrly care for swiftboat tactics either.....but facts I can handle as long as people dont say well so what? Whats the big deal?

[conley]

I would be more interested in it if it weren't by the Swift Boat guy. The whole Swift Boat issue to me was good evidence of how nasty politics can get. I do believe there is plenty to criticise obama about, i just dont want to read an entire book written by someone who obviously has a political agenda. i'll read excerpts tho    i'm sure this is just the first of many books to take a critical look at obama

If the information contained within the pages are true then fine....I particualrly care for swiftboat tactics either.....but facts I can handle as long as people dont say well so what? Whats the big deal?

like i said, i'll be interested in the highlights...if they contain facts, that'll be great. i just like getting my news from someone as impartial as possible, and i'm guessing this guy has an axe to grind based on his swift boat past.

[trex]

Like I said, when I said it...... Let what I said be said!

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

I would be more interested in it if it weren't by the Swift Boat guy. The whole Swift Boat issue to me was good evidence of how nasty politics can get. I do believe there is plenty to criticise obama about, i just dont want to read an entire book written by someone who obviously has a political agenda. i'll read excerpts tho    i'm sure this is just the first of many books to take a critical look at obama

what do you find objectionable about the swift boaters??

[pittypat65]

I don't think it matters what is said or proven about obama, those hypnotized by him will not care. They will continue living in their pipe dreams. If obama is elected, they will then be shocked back to reality. the guy is a lying, hypocritical fraud. 

[Gunit Hussein Sangh]

pittypat, there some people who might say the same thing about your support of McSame 

There is only one person in this world which you can agree with 100% of the time ... and that's yourself. Any politician running for any office that you support will say and do things you disagree with.

Ya'll have tried to make a big deal out of Obama's decision to opt out of public financing. My attitude, he never filed paperwork with the FEC to accept public financing and knowing that he can raise enough money to run a 50 state campaign, instead of a 5 state campaign that seems to be the hallmark of the last few elections, it doesn't bother me in the least.

Besides, since he made those promises we have learned that McSame has violated the law by entering into the public financing system in the primary, which gave him automatic access to the ballots in every state and got a loan based on the money he would be getting. The law says if a candidate wants to withdraw from public financing he MUST get FEC approval. McSame couldn't get that because there were only 2 members on the FEC instead of 6, so McSame just unilaterally decided to opt out once he started winning a few elections and the money started rolling in -- which is a violation of the law HE WROTE.

When you're facing a candidate who will flagrantly violate the law HE WROTE ... why accept parity when you can overwhelm him

[trex]

pittypat, there some people who might say the same thing about your support of McSame 

There is only one person in this world which you can agree with 100% of the time ... and that's yourself. Any politician running for any office that you support will say and do things you disagree with.

Ya'll have tried to make a big deal out of Obama's decision to opt out of public financing. My attitude, he never filed paperwork with the FEC to accept public financing and knowing that he can raise enough money to run a 50 state campaign, instead of a 5 state campaign that seems to be the hallmark of the last few elections, it doesn't bother me in the least.

Besides, since he made those promises we have learned that McSame has violated the law by entering into the public financing system in the primary, which gave him automatic access to the ballots in every state and got a loan based on the money he would be getting. The law says if a candidate wants to withdraw from public financing he MUST get FEC approval. McSame couldn't get that because there were only 2 members on the FEC instead of 6, so McSame just unilaterally decided to opt out once he started winning a few elections and the money started rolling in -- which is a violation of the law HE WROTE.

When you're facing a candidate who will flagrantly violate the law HE WROTE ... why accept parity when you can overwhelm him

I believe this book will provide, in great detail, Obamas rise to prominence through the corrupt political machine in Chicago. Yeah I know they are all corrupt, but yes Democrats this includes your beloved messiah OBAMA

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

pittypat, there some people who might say the same thing about your support of McSame 

There is only one person in this world which you can agree with 100% of the time ... and that's yourself. Any politician running for any office that you support will say and do things you disagree with.

Ya'll have tried to make a big deal out of Obama's decision to opt out of public financing. My attitude, he never filed paperwork with the FEC to accept public financing and knowing that he can raise enough money to run a 50 state campaign, instead of a 5 state campaign that seems to be the hallmark of the last few elections, it doesn't bother me in the least.

Besides, since he made those promises we have learned that McSame has violated the law by entering into the public financing system in the primary, which gave him automatic access to the ballots in every state and got a loan based on the money he would be getting. The law says if a candidate wants to withdraw from public financing he MUST get FEC approval. McSame couldn't get that because there were only 2 members on the FEC instead of 6, so McSame just unilaterally decided to opt out once he started winning a few elections and the money started rolling in -- which is a violation of the law HE WROTE.

When you're facing a candidate who will flagrantly violate the law HE WROTE ... why accept parity when you can overwhelm him

so the politics of change embraces pledging to the voters to do one thing and then doing just the opposite, for no reason other than political expedience?  well i guess it depends upon the meaning of change!   gunnit has learned the little mac "violated the law", and he has learned this absent an inquiry, finding of fact or judicial rendering of disposition?

[Vermouth]

what do you find objectionable about the swift boaters??

Texas billionaire T. Boone Pickens, who helped finance the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, offered $1 million to anyone who could disprove any of the group's accusations.

A group of Swift boat veterans sympathetic to Mr. Kerry sent Mr. Pickens a letter last week taking him up on the challenge. In 12 pages, plus a 42-page attachment of military records and other documents, they identified not just one but ten lies in the group’s campaign against Mr. Kerry. They offered to meet with him to provide Mr. Kerry’s journals and videotapes from Vietnam and a copy of his full military record certified by the Navy – a key demand of Mr. Pickens and veterans who believe Mr. Kerry lied about his service to win his military decorations.

Mr. Pickens replied with a one-page letter, thanking the veterans for their research and their service, but politely saying there had been a misunderstanding. “Key aspects of my offer of $1 million have not been accurately reported,” he wrote.

When he offered the reward at an American Spectator dinner in November, blogs sympathetic to Mr. Pickens reported that he challenged anyone to disprove “anything” the Swift boat group said.

In his letter, Mr. Pickens explained that his bet actually applied to only the television ads the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth bought, and not to their bestselling book or the media interviews that generated more attention than the ads themselves.

“In reviewing your material, none of the information you provide speaks specifically to the issues contained in the ads,” he wrote, “and, as a result, does not qualify for the $1 million...”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/25/t-boone-pickens-says-no-deal/index.html

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

pickens is right and the nyt is wrong.  kerry could have put this to rest by releasing all of the relevant medical records.  he did not because he is a fraud.

[Mr. Dirlewanger]

He could also have decided not to parrot Soviet propaganda in front of the US Senate.*

*Spunk, the KGB circulated phony atrocity stories to provide fodder for the US anti-war movement.

[Mr. Dirlewanger]

Has anyone actually thought about why these guys hate Kerry so much?