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« on: January 19, 2008, 11:33:13 AM »

Prof. Strauss and the Neocon takeover
By Jim Silva InformationClearingHouse

02/06/06 "Lompoc Record" -- -- Have you seen the latest blockbuster? Like Star Wars, it's classic good verses evil - a power hungry dictator plotting to seize control of a goodly Republic. The twist is it's for adults. Ones who know reality is stranger than fiction. You guessed it! This epic thriller is actually your life, and it's called “The Fall of the Republic - Sleeping Through the Revolution.” Here's a behind the scenes look:

Bush Jr. came to power surrounding himself with far right “neo-conservatives” that his daddy called “crazies in the basement.”

Who are the crazies? A militant, anti-communist group of mainly Jewish intellectuals who studied the Trotskyite, Machiavellian political philosophy of Prof. Strauss at the University of Chicago. Wolfowitz, Ashcroft, Perle, Abrams, Chalabi, Bennett, Ho, Shulsky, Khalilzad, Schmitt, Kristol, are a few of the invasion architects, intelligence crafters, torture lawyers, Iraq ambassadors and U.S. puppets who studied under Strauss.

Together with Straussian devotees at neocon and pro-Israeli think tanks, they now control all powerful positions in our government.

What do neocons believe and want? They are anti-democratic, authoritarian, and they want power. Straussianism provides the intellectual framework and personal justification for their actions.

Strauss taught that an elite, wise ruling class must rule the unsophisticated masses by telling them noble lies for their own good.

Strauss loved Plato, interpreting his teachings to mean, “... true democracy is an act against nature and must be prevented at all costs.”

He wrote leaders must use religion to control the masses.

“Because mankind is intrinsically wicked, he has to be governed,” Strauss wrote. “Such governance can only be established, however, when men are united - and they can only be united against other people.” Leaders must always provide an enemy.

Straussian teachings spark delusions of grandeur in neocon intellectuals, who imagine themselves as the wise ruling elite, set free of the bonds of honesty and equality.

The Project for a New American Century think tank springs directly from this authoritarian power cult. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Bolton, Abrams, Libby, Perle, and others signed PNAC documents in 1997 advocating aggressive, militaristic world domination, domination of space, control of cyberspace (they don't want much), permanent bases in the Middle East, and employing troops in constabulatory (police) duties to enforce U.S. world empire, Pax Americana.

Neocon papers are thick with delusional paranoia like the following from Richard Perle, National Security Council: “No stages, this is total war. We are fighting a variety of enemies. There are lots of them out there. All this talk about first we are going to do Afghanistan, then we will do Iraq . . . this is entirely the wrong way to go about it. If we just let our vision of the world go forth, and we embrace it entirely and we don't try to piece together clever diplomacy, but just wage a total war . . . our children will sing great songs about us years from now.”

Michael Ledeen, American Enterprise Institute Fellow, former NSC, State, and Defense Department consultant and influential White House advisor writes, “We can lead by the force of high moral example ... [but] fear is much more reliable, and lasts longer. Once we show that we are capable of dealing out terrible punishment to our enemies, our power will be far greater. “ We are a warlike people and we love war.”

Perle, Wolfowitz, Bolton and others have a long history of calling for “winnable nuclear war.”

Henry Kissinger described the baffled response of established powers in the face of revolutionary challenge. “Lulled by a period of stability which seemed permanent, they find it nearly impossible to take at face value the assertion of the revolutionary power that it means to smash the existing framework. Those who warn against the danger in time are considered alarmists: those who counsel adaptation “are considered balanced and sane.”

This movie will soon be over. Better wake up your congressman.


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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2008, 11:37:04 AM »

STRAUSSIAN ANTI-PHILOSOPHY: THREE COUNTER ARGUMENTS AGAINST LEO STRAUSS' PHILOSOPHY OF NIHILISM, ESOTERICISM, AND SOCIAL PRAGMATISM.
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Leo Strauss (September 20, 1899 - October 18, 1973), served as a member of the faculty of the University of Chicago, chiefly as a professor of political philosophy. His primary influence in academia remains confined to political science departments. Notable Straussians include: Allan Bloom, Thomas Pangle, Leon Kass, Harry V. Jaffa, Martin Diamond, Ralph Lerner, and George Anastaplo. Leo Strauss saw himself as a conservative, and for the most part, "Straussians" have become closely associated with certain factions within the U.S. Republican Party.

Leo Strauss' fascist philosophical thought is composed of three essential elements:

1. Straussian Philosophy is a philosophy of Nihilism.

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The philosopher/superman is that rare man who can face the truth: that there is no God; that the universe cares nothing for men or mankind; and that all of human history is nothing more than an insignificant speck in the cosmos, which no sooner began, than it will vanish forever without a trace. There is no morality, no good and evil, and of course any notion of an afterlife is an old wives' tale. Source: Secret Kingdom of Leo Strauss

Wikipedia defines ‘nihilism’ as the following:

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Nihilism in its moral or ethical sense is a complete rejection of all systems of authority, morality, and social custom. Either through the rejection of previously accepted bases of belief or through extreme relativism or skepticism, the nihilist believes that none of these claims to power are valid, and often that they should be fought against.
On the subject of morality specifically, nihilism concludes that relativism renders the project of normative ethics, and the concepts of good and evil, meaningless - though not necessarily with the intent to follow this with any conclusions about society or authority, as there is no correct form for either social institutions or practical morality.Definition of Nihilism

Counter agument against Straussian Nilihilism: If nilihilism is true, then how can one agrue that Strauss’s philosophy is better than any other philosophy? Strauss is agruing that it is better to believe in his philosophy that not to believe in his philosophical thought. But if the universe is absent of any value, then how can one agrue Straussian beleifs are ‘better’ since ‘better’ is a value judgement? If Straussian nilihilism is true, then it is has to be false.

2. Straussian Philosophy is a philosophy of Deception.

Strauss believed the great philosophers like Plato understood the reality of nihilism and hid this truth in their writings--Plato of all thinkers! This is the "Straussian esortarianism" concept.

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It is because the truth would destroy society and the philosophers alike if it became known, that Strauss said that Plato and the ancient philosophers, like Strauss himself, wrote in a kind of code, whose true meaning only disclosed itself to the wise. If the vulgar happened on their books, they would find only the familiar salutary myths about the rewards of virtue, the punishment of vice, and the like.

Strauss' hermeneutical (interpretation of writings) theory is called, "Straussian text" because this "hidden" message of nihilism is behind many philosophical classical texts. This hermeneutical approach is borrowed from Martin Heidegger--another fascist Nazi that greatly influences Strauss and all his students.

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It is the supermen/philosophers who provide the herd with the religious, moral, and other beliefs they require, but which the supermen themselves know to be lies. Nietzsche said that his supermen were "atheistic priests," and Strauss pretends that their lies are "noble lies." But they do not do this out of benevolence, of course; charity and benevolence are mocked by Nietzsche and Strauss as unworthy of gods and godlike men. Rather, the "philosophers" use these falsehoods to shape society in the interest of these "philosophers" themselves.
Now, the philosophers require various sorts of people to serve them, including the "gentlemen," that word which had struck me earlier, when Bloom [student of Strauss] had used it in speaking of Socrates' trial. Rather than the "esoteric," or secret teachings, the future "gentlemen" are indoctrinated in the "exoteric," or public teachings. They are taught to believe in religion, morality, patriotism, and public service, and some go into government. Think of former Education Secretary William Bennett and his Book of Virtues. Of course, along with these traditional virtues, they also believe in the "philosophers" who have taught them all these good things.
Those "gentlemen" who become statesmen, will continue to take the advice of the philosophers. This rule of the philosophers through their front-men in government, is what Strauss calls the "secret kingdom" of the philosophers, a "secret kingdom" which is the life's objective of many of Strauss's esoteric students.

The methodology used in Martin Heidegger’s ‘Dasein’ analytic worked out in ‘Being And Time’ is called phenomenology. Mathematician Edmond Husserl developed phenomenology as an effort to create a ‘scientific philosophy’-- the holy grail of philosophy through history. This methodology is too complex to explain here. I believe this methodology has some strengths as Sartre has used it in his work ‘Being and Nothingness,’ but Herbert Marcuse, a former student of Heidegger, warned that phenomenology is fascistic epistemology. He never elaborated, or explained whether phenomenology was inherently fascistic, or was used fascistically.

Phenomenology is a methodology of ‘description’ and ‘suspends,’ or ‘Brackets’ (the technical term is ‘Epoche’) any belief in the existence of the object of description so that an ‘analysis’ of human being, for example, can be carried on without having to address metaphysical questions about the existence of human beings. In this sense, phenomenology is ‘positivistic’ because it only describes. Modern positivistic linguistic philosophy and phenomenology have collaborated in academia. I think this non-normative and descriptive methodology that ‘leaves everything as it is’ was what concerned Marcuse. This non-critical descriptive method can be found in modern philosophies of Hermeneutics today. Strauss’ academic work consisted of ‘descriptive’ research of others’ writings.

Counter argument against Straussian esotericism: Strauss accepts the concept of the ‘noble lie’ and that only the ‘gentlemen’ know these falsehoods from the truth of Straussian thought. But this dichotomy between public indoctrination and private Straussian esoteric truth make his philosophy impossible to analyze, or evaluate since Straussian esotericism could be itself a noble lie.

This is the same as saying ‘Everything I say is false.’ But if that is the case, the statement ‘Everything I say is false’ has to be false also. So here, if his statement ‘Everything I say is false’ is to be true, it then has to be false.

The Straussian may say ‘Oh, I didn’t say everything I state is false, just the public appeal to traditional values. The Straussian advice to the ‘gentlemen’ is the real truth.’ But what are the criteria for determining, or distinguishing true advice to the gentlemen and public indoctrination? The criteria of true advice could be a noble lie also! So Straussian epistemology has no methodology to determine truth and falsity except what Straussians declare as true. The problem with a crypto-epistemology is that any public presentation of a Straussian thesis, or any error discovered in a Straussian position can be abandoned as a pseudo-epistemology making verification of this school of thought impossible. This is called egoistic relativism and is the hallmark of fascist epistemology.

3. Straussian social pragmatism is better than societal disorder:

Straussian ethics holds that there are no ethics. We live in a nihilistic universe, but the weak "mass," or "herd" need ethics. The Enlightened pretend to believe in ethics publicly and rule over the unenlightened herd that need these fictions to live in an orderly society. This is a society of the "Superman," or in their code the "Gentlemen" that have a right to rule the world.

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But the great majority of men and women, on the other hand, is so far from ever being able to face the truth, that it virtually belongs to another species. Nietzsche called it the "herd," and also the "slaves." They require the bogeymen of a threatening God and of punishment in the afterlife, and the fiction of moral right and wrong. Without these illusions, they would go mad and run riot, and the social order, any social order, would collapse. And since human nature never changes, according to Strauss, this will always be so.

Counter argument against Straussian social pragmatism: If the universe is truly nihilistic, then what is wrong with a society in disorder? A disorderly society is no better than an orderly society in a nihilistic universe devoid of value, and meaning. Straussians can argue that a disorderly society is a danger to human survival and is necessary for the human species to continue pragmatically. But, ‘survival’ is a value judgment itself. Also, "Pragmatism" is a philosophy itself, and could not be valid in a nihilistic universe. The Straussian might say, ‘But, I want to survival not because survival has any value, but I just want to survival’ it is a human desire that cannot be resisted, or controlled and Straussian philosophy allows me to survival as a philosopher whereas I would perish otherwise.’

The flaw of Straussian philosophy is the flaw shared by all philosophies of Relativism:in this case relativistic pragmatic ‘truth’, which enables me to survive.

Christian Theologian, Paul Tillich, writes the following of Relativism.

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....there are people, and I am among them, who are unwilling to accept this description and to surrender to an absolute relativism, not because we are authoritarian or reactionary but for definite reasons both theoretical and pragmatic.
The logical position against any claim of relativism to absoluteness is that "absolute relativism" is a self-contradictory term, an impossible combination of words. If one avoids this impossible combination of words, relativism itself becomes relative; therefore an element of absoluteness is not only a possibility but even a necessity, otherwise no assertion at all can be made.
But absolute relativism is also impossible practically. If I am asked to surrender totally to relativism I can say, "But I live! I know what ‘true’ and ‘false’ mean, I do something I can describe as ‘better’ than something else, I venerate something which concerns me ultimately and which for me is holy." The question then is: How can one make such statements if relativism has the last word?
http://www.religion-online.org/showchapter...1628&C=1617

Straussian philosophy is a contradiction on many levels, but this is not a detriment in a nihilistic universe. A contradiction is an ‘impossible combination of words’ and, therefore, contradiction renders Straussian fascist philosophy impossible.

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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2008, 08:31:57 PM »

So, all of this is beneath ya'll, right?
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2008, 09:21:14 PM »

It's way over my head.
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2008, 09:25:24 PM »

What do you think of when you encounter the term "Neocon", Vermouth?

Do you think of Republicans, or consider it a nickname?
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« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2008, 09:35:38 PM »

It's way over my head.

Don't be silly.
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« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2008, 10:10:04 PM »

Mr. Dirlewanger will explain Straussians for you it seems.

But if you want more discussion of this important issue, I will be happy to help.
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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2008, 10:19:58 PM »

This is a short take on Strauss, all of it truth:

http://www.alternet.org/story/15935/

One more, just in case you give a toss:

http://www.logosjournal.com/issue_3.2/mason.htm

Excellent interview about Strauss:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5010.htm
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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2008, 10:34:16 AM »

So, all of this is beneath ya'll, right?

I hope this place pays you enough to live on. If not, GET A JOB. Huh
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2008, 12:11:26 PM »

Vermouth,

You may consider familiarity with the elitist ideology of Strauss et.al. as unworthy, but I assure you that those in power do not.
These perople count on your ambivalence in fact, and consider it a justification of their posture.
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2008, 03:16:20 PM »



I hope this place pays you enough to live on. If not, GET A JOB. Huh
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Well said, Cletus.
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2008, 03:21:15 PM »

"Strauss taught that an elite, wise ruling class must rule the unsophisticated masses by telling them noble lies for their own good."

that sounds a lot like this administration telling us we're in iraq to spread freedom and democracy in the middle east

cheney's 'we'll be greeted as liberators' lie was pretty good too, but not quite as 'noble' as the first one

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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2008, 03:22:21 PM »

I know ya'll hate links, but this is truely worthwhile:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5010.htm
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2008, 03:25:13 PM »

no one hates links bro  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2008, 03:34:20 PM »

irving kristol sounds like a real piece of ... work
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