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Fireworks! The perfect end to an evening of BS slinging of historic proportions. Barack Obama is a demagogue who will stoop to any lie or distortion; the question is how many people he can fool. On that, the jury is out. The answer will emerge between now and November. It will take some time to dissect all of the foolishness we heard tonight, but here are a few observations: Obama outlined, in the vaguest terms possible, countless billions or trillions of new federal spending. How would he pay for it? By "closing corporate loopholes"--like what? The idea that Obama's orgy of spending can be funded by "closing corporate loopholes" is frankly childish. By increasing taxes on the top 5% of taxpayers, i.e., precisely those who are grossly over-taxed already. The top 5% already pay 60% of all federal income taxes. And by "eliminating programs that no longer work." Really? Which ones? No one seriously imagines that Obama--let alone the Democratic Congress!--has any intention of eliminating any significant government programs. Obama says he wants to become independent of foreign oil in ten years. How? By tapping natural gas reserves. I wonder whether Obama, unlike Nancy Pelosi, understands that natural gas is a fossil fuel for which we must drill offshore, in ANWR, etc. There was perhaps some news here: Obama also came out for developing nuclear energy, yet another flip-flop. But does anyone imagine that nuclear energy development would go forward in a Democratic Congress and White House? In one of his many cheap shots, Obama said that we import three times as much foreign oil as when John McCain went to Washington. That's no doubt true, because the Democratic Party has enacted legislation that makes it illegal to develop our domestic resources. Obama said he is happy to debate John McCain about who has the judgment and temperament to guide foreign policy. Of course, he has had many opportunities to do so, and has ducked them. Does this mean that Obama will now accept McCain's challenge to a series of town hall appearances? But what about Obama's foreign policy judgment? He barely mentioned Iraq--once, in the distant past, his signature issue--but never referred at all to the surge. Obama was dead wrong on the most important foreign policy issue that has arisen during his time in the Senate, and he failed even to mention it, let alone try to justify his error. Rather weirdly, Obama attacked McCain for alleged unwillingness to "follow Osama bin Laden to the cave where he lives." If this means anything, it means that Obama is still in favor of invading Afghanistan. Again, no one really believes Obama will do this; it's just another example of how he doesn't feel any obligation to conform his words to reality. He says we "don't deter Iran by talking tough," so how, then, do we deter Iran? Obama offers no clue. Likewise with Georgia; "talking tough" won't stop the Russians. True enough; deterring the Russians requires military capability. Yet Obama has pledged to reduce our military capability. So how, exactly, are the Russians to be stopped? Obama is utterly unreliable every time he recites a statistic. Examples could be multiplied endlessly; to take just one, he said tonight that "the average American family saw its income go down $2,000 under George Bush." That is untrue. Inflation-adjusted median income during the Bush administration is up, not "down $2,000" since 2001, and it increased again last year. Of course, Obama has no intention of appealing to the well-informed. Like other Democrats, he feeds on ignorance. Whether a majority of voters are ignorant enough to swallow Obama's whoppers is, as yet, unknown.
One last thought: was there a single sentence in Obama's speech that could not have come from Jimmy Carter?
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they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2008, 06:48:37 AM » |
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a reasoned individual can think of many reasons not to vote for little mac, but no reason whatsoever to vote for bo. bo is a fraud, who has accomplished nothing in his life. the dems/libs, msm and bo have been making it up as they go. inventing a resume and the aura of accomplishment etc...this guy is a disaster waiting to happen. i didn't watch the speech. was it presented as caesar speaking to his subjects or jesus commanding his disciples??
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"The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer."
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2008, 06:59:15 AM » |
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The whole thing was shameful spectacle. 
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2008, 08:46:58 AM » |
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unlike the respectful, boring, monotone speech mcsame will give heh  Will they have a lime green background again 
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 Obama 360 and rising -- McSame 178. America will once again rise from the ashes of a Bush.
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2008, 08:56:25 AM » |
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2008, 08:59:40 AM » |
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Great analysis, Soaring. I didn't watch a minute of it, or the convention for that matter.
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The democrat party is bleeding like a sword sharpener with Parkinson's Disease.
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2008, 09:02:02 AM » |
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Great analysis, Soaring. I didn't watch a minute of it, or the convention for that matter.
Nothing was said that you havent heard before.  It was very gaudy. Gov. of Alaske may get the women mccain needs.
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2008, 09:42:32 AM » |
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Here are conservative hero, Pat Buchanan, comments on Obama's speech
http://www.youtube.com/v/j0Fru4dZLGA
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 Obama 360 and rising -- McSame 178. America will once again rise from the ashes of a Bush.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2008, 10:20:11 AM » |
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What change is old Joe Biden for VP? Obama will be the puppet, Biden the puppetmaster. 
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2008, 01:20:51 PM » |
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The whole thing was shameful spectacle.  In what regards? He gave you assholes what you were looking for: a platform of ideas to run on. You have been criticizing his speeches from day one. He could tell you air is breathable and you would STOP breathing just to try and prove him wrong.
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2008, 01:32:49 PM » |
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Actually, I just heard Obama say that taking a shower is fun.
Patriotic, conservative, republicans are now skipping bathing.
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 Obama 360 and rising -- McSame 178. America will once again rise from the ashes of a Bush.
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How does that grab ya, Bob?
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2008, 01:42:24 PM » |
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Actually, I just heard Obama say that taking a shower is fun. Patriotic, conservative, republicans are now skipping bathing.
Does this mean that filthy stinkin pinko hippie liberals will finally start bathing?  MeatMop. PS: Regarding our other conversation: trash-talking is fun too...I just prefer to do it in parallel with more serious conversation. Whatever, I'll bury the hatchet. I'll give you credit in that your jibba jabba isn't hateful :-)
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There are 10 types of people, those who can count binary and those who can't.
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2008, 02:53:45 PM » |
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No offense taken. Anybody who takes any rant on this board too seriously needs to take a deep breath and get another hobby.
Hey patriotic, conservative, republicans ....
Neilsen raitings are out for Obama's speech ... over 38 million watched it ... more than the Olympics opening AND that number does not include those watching thru PBS and C-SPAN ... Millions more undoubtly was watching c-span as 30 minutes of the talking bobble heads on tv was all anyone (other than a patriotic, conservative, republican) could take.
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2008, 04:14:49 PM » |
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How about we start paying for everything by taking 12 billion every month out to Iraq. Then we can stop giving tax breaks to oil companies. Then we can stop giving tax breaks to companies that go overseas. Thats a good start.
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2008, 04:16:36 PM » |
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China has just signed a HUGE billion dollar deal to take Iraqi oil. Can you believe this crap? We clean up Iraq and now China swoops in and takes the oil. 
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