Biofuels under attack as world food prices soar

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http://www.cnbc.com/id/17129230/site/14081545/

A little history on ethanol.

In 1979,  the U.S. Congress approved ethanol production subsidies in response to an embargo by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries. Federal subsidies have exceeded $10 billion through 2006. The Clean Air Act of 1990 created additional demand for ethanol by increasing its use as a gasoline additive to replace MTBE, a pollutant.

We can blame ethanol on Democrats and Jimmy Carter, a Farmer, signed it into law. 

Environmental profiteering the the biggest threat to the American people.

[Mr. Dirlewanger]

Query: If the planet is over-populated as it is, why do we strain finite resources to the breaking point by trying in vain to use technological advances to get Earth to support even more than the current 6.6 billion people?

Query: If the poor & starving are largely in resource-poor countries and essentially garanteeing starvation by over-breeding (or insert politically correct term if it makes you feel better), why would anyone feel the need to connect this with use of resources - edible or otherwise - by others in resource-rich areas?

Statement: Unless you (not directed at Mr. D - only at those who take offense to the above queries) are prepared to stop watering your lawn, cut your food intake to <800 calories/day, reduce your carbon footprint to that of an individual in a 3rd world nation, and send the saved resources to a family in destitution in, say, Somalia or East Timor or Malawi or The Congo (who all top the list of poorest countries on Earth), then stifle that plastic bleeding heart bull-shit.

And then ask yourself why a corrupt & greedy organization like the WMF would give enough of a flying fuck to call for a moratorium on biofuels. Still believe it's out of the goodness of their black fucking hearts?

You should know I am no bleeding heart. 

These are great questions and we are of like mind, sir. Frankly, I think that the developed world should be having more children, not less. Overpopulation is a Third World problem that, like it or not, will only be solved by their being less people in resource poor areas.

[spunkloaf]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/17129230/site/14081545/

A little history on ethanol.

In 1979,  the U.S. Congress approved ethanol production subsidies in response to an embargo by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries. Federal subsidies have exceeded $10 billion through 2006. The Clean Air Act of 1990 created additional demand for ethanol by increasing its use as a gasoline additive to replace MTBE, a pollutant.

We can blame ethanol on Democrats and Jimmy Carter, a Farmer, signed it into law. 

Environmental profiteering the the biggest threat to the American people.

Wow, right now I consider you public enemy number one, so your statement is wrong.

[spunkloaf]

Query: If the planet is over-populated as it is, why do we strain finite resources to the breaking point by trying in vain to use technological advances to get Earth to support even more than the current 6.6 billion people?

Query: If the poor & starving are largely in resource-poor countries and essentially garanteeing starvation by over-breeding (or insert politically correct term if it makes you feel better), why would anyone feel the need to connect this with use of resources - edible or otherwise - by others in resource-rich areas?

Statement: Unless you (not directed at Mr. D - only at those who take offense to the above queries) are prepared to stop watering your lawn, cut your food intake to <800 calories/day, reduce your carbon footprint to that of an individual in a 3rd world nation, and send the saved resources to a family in destitution in, say, Somalia or East Timor or Malawi or The Congo (who all top the list of poorest countries on Earth), then stifle that plastic bleeding heart bull-shit.

And then ask yourself why a corrupt & greedy organization like the WMF would give enough of a flying fuck to call for a moratorium on biofuels. Still believe it's out of the goodness of their black fucking hearts?

You should know I am no bleeding heart. 

These are great questions and we are of like mind, sir. Frankly, I think that the developed world should be having more children, not less. Overpopulation is a Third World problem that, like it or not, will only be solved by their being less people in resource poor areas.

Mostly agreed, but...
Nyeh, I don't know about the "more children" thing.  I think we need to better prepare our society to be able to support any more population expansion.

At the same time, I do believe stronger families help social problems, but I don't consider more children a necessity to make a strong family.

[Mr. Dirlewanger]

Query: If the planet is over-populated as it is, why do we strain finite resources to the breaking point by trying in vain to use technological advances to get Earth to support even more than the current 6.6 billion people?

Query: If the poor & starving are largely in resource-poor countries and essentially garanteeing starvation by over-breeding (or insert politically correct term if it makes you feel better), why would anyone feel the need to connect this with use of resources - edible or otherwise - by others in resource-rich areas?

Statement: Unless you (not directed at Mr. D - only at those who take offense to the above queries) are prepared to stop watering your lawn, cut your food intake to <800 calories/day, reduce your carbon footprint to that of an individual in a 3rd world nation, and send the saved resources to a family in destitution in, say, Somalia or East Timor or Malawi or The Congo (who all top the list of poorest countries on Earth), then stifle that plastic bleeding heart bull-shit.

And then ask yourself why a corrupt & greedy organization like the WMF would give enough of a flying fuck to call for a moratorium on biofuels. Still believe it's out of the goodness of their black fucking hearts?

You should know I am no bleeding heart. 

These are great questions and we are of like mind, sir. Frankly, I think that the developed world should be having more children, not less. Overpopulation is a Third World problem that, like it or not, will only be solved by their being less people in resource poor areas.

Mostly agreed, but...
Nyeh, I don't know about the "more children" thing.  I think we need to better prepare our society to be able to support any more population expansion.

At the same time, I do believe stronger families help social problems, but I don't consider more children a necessity to make a strong family.

If the nations of Europe wish to retain their social welfare states they will need to have more children. Furthermore, relying on alien labor threatens disaster for the US and Europe.

[spunkloaf]

Yes.  People need to build jobs in their own countries and strengthen their own economies, while we do the same for ourselves.

[SDML]

What is the threat of alien labor?

[spunkloaf]

People here need jobs!

The wife of a political candidate in my state came to my door the other day.  She told me how amazed she was, going from door to door and finding how many, many people are currently unemployed.  Don't give jobs to aliens, keep them for ourselves first--then when we have jobs to spare, let aliens have some.

[wow]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/17129230/site/14081545/

A little history on ethanol.

In 1979,  the U.S. Congress approved ethanol production subsidies in response to an embargo by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries. Federal subsidies have exceeded $10 billion through 2006. The Clean Air Act of 1990 created additional demand for ethanol by increasing its use as a gasoline additive to replace MTBE, a pollutant.

We can blame ethanol on Democrats and Jimmy Carter, a Farmer, signed it into law. 

Environmental profiteering the the biggest threat to the American people.

Wow, right now I consider you public enemy number one, so your statement is wrong.

I can see you have not read the Kyoto Protocol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol
The Kyoto Protocol is a protocol to the international Framework Convention on Climate Change with the objective of reducing Greenhouse gases that cause climate change. Governments are separated into two general categories: developed countries, referred to as Annex I countries (who have accepted greenhouse gas emission reduction obligations and must submit an annual greenhouse gas inventory), and developing countries, referred to as Non-Annex I countries (who have no greenhouse gas emission reduction obligations but may participate in the Clean Development Mechanism).
# Any Annex I country that fails to meet its Kyoto obligation will be penalized by having to submit 1.3 emission allowances in a second commitment period for every ton of greenhouse gas emissions they exceed their cap in the first commitment period.
In practice this means that Non-Annex I economies have no GHG emission restrictions, but when a greenhouse gas emission reduction project (a "Greenhouse Gas Project") is implemented in these countries the project will receive Carbon Credits, which can then be sold to Annex I buyers.
This protocol has nothing to do with reducing green house gases on a global basis, it's all about wealth distribution and the UN is the middle man.

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People here need jobs!

The wife of a political candidate in my state came to my door the other day.  She told me how amazed she was, going from door to door and finding how many, many people are currently unemployed.  Don't give jobs to aliens, keep them for ourselves first--then when we have jobs to spare, let aliens have some.

95% of Americans are employed.

[Mr. Dirlewanger]

What is the threat of alien labor?

I’ve gone on at length about the threat Third World immigration poses to the West in terms of increasing balkanization, a racial spoils system, crime and increasing social unrest, a loss of Western identity, and ultimately our dispossession.

I was not thinking in terms of economics.

[Mr. Dirlewanger]

People here need jobs!

The wife of a political candidate in my state came to my door the other day.  She told me how amazed she was, going from door to door and finding how many, many people are currently unemployed.  Don't give jobs to aliens, keep them for ourselves first--then when we have jobs to spare, let aliens have some.

Hopefully no one will respond to this with the nonsenscal notion that Americans are just too lazy to do the work Mexicans will.

[wow]

http://www.cnbc.com/id/17129230/site/14081545/

A little history on ethanol.

In 1979,  the U.S. Congress approved ethanol production subsidies in response to an embargo by the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries. Federal subsidies have exceeded $10 billion through 2006. The Clean Air Act of 1990 created additional demand for ethanol by increasing its use as a gasoline additive to replace MTBE, a pollutant.

We can blame ethanol on Democrats and Jimmy Carter, a Farmer, signed it into law. 

Environmental profiteering the the biggest threat to the American people.

Wow, right now I consider you public enemy number one, so your statement is wrong.

You are not addressing the subject, you just make attacks now.

[spunkloaf]

As far as what I've been reading, you do nothing but attack democrats, so I don't see the difference in me returning the favor.  Have some fucking consistency if you're gonna play ball like that, or else stop blaming people for stupid shit.  Grow up.

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As far as what I've been reading, you do nothing but attack democrats, so I don't see the difference in me returning the favor.  Have some fucking consistency if you're gonna play ball like that, or else stop blaming people for stupid shit.  Grow up.

Are you having trouble with refuting my points?
You ignored the Kyoto Protocol or the global warming hoax being used to create global socialism dictated by the UN. Hmmmmmm