Double Standard

[OswaldTheOsprey]

Francisco Uribe sees a monumental double standard in the MSM treatment of Sarah Palin versus Barack Obama. From Taki's Mag.

OswaldTheOsprey

http://www.takimag.com/site/print/2260/

[Mr. Dirlewanger]

Well, if you can't see this double standard you are a hopeless hack. If Palin had any sort of relationship with a Right wing terrorist (even one she could explain away) does anyone seriously believe the press would ignore it? If a former KKK bomber was an "education reformer" in Alaska and Palin, as state governor, had frequent contact with him would it be an issue? I know this isn't a very plausible scenario. Apparently, only certain kinds of terrorists make a living in education reform but just humor me.

Then there is a laughable hypocrisy of radical feminists.

[spunkloaf]

I'm sick of the word "terror" in general, and it doesn't amuse me for a second to hear conspiracy theories of our government officials mingling with them--just for a political smear.  Even on Palin, as much as I disapprove of her.

[OswaldTheOsprey]

Well, if you can't see this double standard you are a hopeless hack. If Palin had any sort of relationship with a Right wing terrorist (even one she could explain away) does anyone seriously believe the press would ignore it? If a former KKK bomber was an "education reformer" in Alaska and Palin, as state governor, had frequent contact with him would it be an issue? I know this isn't a very plausible scenario. Apparently, only certain kinds of terrorists make a living in education reform but just humor me.

Then there is a laughable hypocrisy of radical feminists.

Hypocrisy to the Nth degree. That's cultural marxists for you!

OswaldTheOsprey

[conley]

if you believe in free markets and capitalism, why not let these journalism outfits report what they want?

i dont understand this constant whining. the new york times is liberal, fox news is conservative, it is what it is. these are private companies that are supported financially by their customers who want the news delivered with a liberal or conservative bend.

[conley]

i think far worse has been said about obama than palin...obama has been accused of hanging out with terrorists, hating america, etc


palin's been accused of what exactly? not being intelligent? being in over her head?

i'd rather be called stupid than an america hating terrorist sympathizer.

[OswaldTheOsprey]

if you believe in free markets and capitalism, why not let these journalism outfits report what they want?

i dont understand this constant whining. the new york times is liberal, fox news is conservative, it is what it is. these are private companies that are supported financially by their customers who want the news delivered with a liberal or conservative bend.

You are right. I just wish the news organizations would admit it.

OswaldTheOsprey

[conley]

if you believe in free markets and capitalism, why not let these journalism outfits report what they want?

i dont understand this constant whining. the new york times is liberal, fox news is conservative, it is what it is. these are private companies that are supported financially by their customers who want the news delivered with a liberal or conservative bend.

You are right. I just wish the news organizations would admit it.

OswaldTheOsprey

yes, that's true...

another point i'd make is that double standard seems to exist for palin versus the three men...when palin gets attacked she's being picked on but when mccain or obama gets slammed its not unexpected. i know the point has been made before but to me that is sexist. i think it's human nature for us all though, when we see a woman being attacked we are more likely to get upset than if a male career politician is the one being ridiculed.

[OswaldTheOsprey]

if you believe in free markets and capitalism, why not let these journalism outfits report what they want?

i dont understand this constant whining. the new york times is liberal, fox news is conservative, it is what it is. these are private companies that are supported financially by their customers who want the news delivered with a liberal or conservative bend.

You are right. I just wish the news organizations would admit it.

OswaldTheOsprey

yes, that's true...

another point i'd make is that double standard seems to exist for palin versus the three men...when palin gets attacked she's being picked on but when mccain or obama gets slammed its not unexpected. i know the point has been made before but to me that is sexist. i think it's human nature for us all though, when we see a woman being attacked we are more likely to get upset than if a male career politician is the one being ridiculed.

Well, it didn't help Hillary Clinton earlier this year. I do see and understand what you are saying.

OswaldTheOsprey

[conley]

if you believe in free markets and capitalism, why not let these journalism outfits report what they want?

i dont understand this constant whining. the new york times is liberal, fox news is conservative, it is what it is. these are private companies that are supported financially by their customers who want the news delivered with a liberal or conservative bend.

You are right. I just wish the news organizations would admit it.

OswaldTheOsprey

yes, that's true...

another point i'd make is that double standard seems to exist for palin versus the three men...when palin gets attacked she's being picked on but when mccain or obama gets slammed its not unexpected. i know the point has been made before but to me that is sexist. i think it's human nature for us all though, when we see a woman being attacked we are more likely to get upset than if a male career politician is the one being ridiculed.

Well, it didn't help Hillary Clinton earlier this year. I do see and understand what you are saying.

OswaldTheOsprey

good point...i think hillary having been around for so long as a pol made her seem less like a victim. plus people like grumpy and others on the far right have repeatedly made crass jokes about hill not being a female, etc. i think we as americans think of palin sort of as our mom/sister and think of hillary like a lesbian cousin. jokes aside though palin is a lot more feminine imo than hillary. 

[Mr. Dirlewanger]

Is it true that more registered Democrats watch Fox News more than any other network? I agree that Fox is center-Right (if you think Fox is far Right you are a loon) but they just do it better. I probably get most of my "news" from The Economist which is center-Right. I don't like their stand on immigration among others but I think once you recognize the bias it is easy to digest your news free of it.

[conley]

Is it true that more registered Democrats watch Fox News more than any other network? I agree that Fox is center-Right (if you think Fox is far Right you are a loon) but they just do it better. I probably get most of my "news" from The Economist which is center-Right. I don't like their stand on immigration among others but I think once you recognize the bias it is easy to digest your news free of it.

i've seen people write that on here before but i certainly dont believe it. there might be a poll somewhere that says that, but we all know how accurate those polls are. i would say fox is about as far right as the nyt/msnbc is left. cnn i would call left but not as left as msnbc. abc and cbs news are left too. i dont really understand the fusion of news and opinion. i dont really care what oreilly/olberman/cafferty/whoever's opinion is on an issue, just give me the facts and let me decide on my own. i guess that's why i rely more on written news sources than tv. after the vp debate i was of the opinion it was a tie (and thus in effect a palin win). drudge had palin winning by a landslide on their poll, cnn had biden winning. anyone could have told you how those polls would look without even having to go to the website.

[OswaldTheOsprey]

if you believe in free markets and capitalism, why not let these journalism outfits report what they want?

i dont understand this constant whining. the new york times is liberal, fox news is conservative, it is what it is. these are private companies that are supported financially by their customers who want the news delivered with a liberal or conservative bend.

You are right. I just wish the news organizations would admit it.

OswaldTheOsprey

yes, that's true...

another point i'd make is that double standard seems to exist for palin versus the three men...when palin gets attacked she's being picked on but when mccain or obama gets slammed its not unexpected. i know the point has been made before but to me that is sexist. i think it's human nature for us all though, when we see a woman being attacked we are more likely to get upset than if a male career politician is the one being ridiculed.

Well, it didn't help Hillary Clinton earlier this year. I do see and understand what you are saying.

OswaldTheOsprey

good point...i think hillary having been around for so long as a pol made her seem less like a victim. plus people like grumpy and others on the far right have repeatedly made crass jokes about hill not being a female, etc. i think we as americans think of palin sort of as our mom/sister and think of hillary like a lesbian cousin. jokes aside though palin is a lot more feminine imo than hillary. 

Perhaps. I am still thinking that the attacks on Palin are as cultural as they are sexist.

OswaldTheOsprey

[conley]

if you believe in free markets and capitalism, why not let these journalism outfits report what they want?

i dont understand this constant whining. the new york times is liberal, fox news is conservative, it is what it is. these are private companies that are supported financially by their customers who want the news delivered with a liberal or conservative bend.

You are right. I just wish the news organizations would admit it.

OswaldTheOsprey

yes, that's true...

another point i'd make is that double standard seems to exist for palin versus the three men...when palin gets attacked she's being picked on but when mccain or obama gets slammed its not unexpected. i know the point has been made before but to me that is sexist. i think it's human nature for us all though, when we see a woman being attacked we are more likely to get upset than if a male career politician is the one being ridiculed.

Well, it didn't help Hillary Clinton earlier this year. I do see and understand what you are saying.

OswaldTheOsprey

good point...i think hillary having been around for so long as a pol made her seem less like a victim. plus people like grumpy and others on the far right have repeatedly made crass jokes about hill not being a female, etc. i think we as americans think of palin sort of as our mom/sister and think of hillary like a lesbian cousin. jokes aside though palin is a lot more feminine imo than hillary. 

Perhaps. I am still thinking that the attacks on Palin are as cultural as they are sexist.

OswaldTheOsprey

in terms of her being an outdoorswoman from a rural area?

she and her husband have done quite well financially...her documents aren't in yet but all signs suggest her family has more money than both the bidens and the obamas

i still think of the republicans as the elitists, the dems, however misguided their programs have been, in my opinion seem more concerned about the poor

[OswaldTheOsprey]

Here is an article from the middle of the road New York Daily News presenting similar arguments to those from the earlier article. Michael Goodwin is no wide-eyed right wing radical!

OswaldTheOsprey


http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2008/10/05/2008-10-05_sarah_palin_is_taking_a_bigger_beating_b.html