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« Reply #45 on: July 18, 2008, 01:51:30 AM » |
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I would summarily execute any Iranian caught in Iraq- hell even Iran says that they are not there, so there could be no objections.
Fair enough, though we have people working covertly in Iran as well, so things could get pretty ugly if we went down that path. |
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« Reply #46 on: July 18, 2008, 02:59:15 AM » |
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I would summarily execute any Iranian caught in Iraq- hell even Iran says that they are not there, so there could be no objections.
Fair enough, though we have people working covertly in Iran as well, so things could get pretty ugly if we went down that path. Your points are valid as far as they go. However, I would ask this: what right do we have to execute anyone in Iraq or any other foreign country? Secondly, why do we have people working covertly in Iran? Iranian mistrust of this country began with the CIA toppling Mossadagh (spelling?) back in 1953. Internationalism and foreign intrigue do this nation no good. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #47 on: July 18, 2008, 06:43:57 AM » |
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unfortunately we are inevitably forced to live in the world as it is, not as you wish it would be.
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« Reply #48 on: July 18, 2008, 07:59:15 AM » |
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unfortunately we are inevitably forced to live in the world as it is, not as you wish it would be.
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« Reply #49 on: July 18, 2008, 08:12:47 AM » |
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Your points are valid as far as they go. However, I would ask this: what right do we have to execute anyone in Iraq or any other foreign country?
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« Reply #50 on: July 18, 2008, 09:24:34 AM » |
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I would summarily execute any Iranian caught in Iraq- hell even Iran says that they are not there, so there could be no objections.
Fair enough, though we have people working covertly in Iran as well, so things could get pretty ugly if we went down that path. Your points are valid as far as they go. However, I would ask this: what right do we have to execute anyone in Iraq or any other foreign country? Secondly, why do we have people working covertly in Iran? Iranian mistrust of this country began with the CIA toppling Mossadagh (spelling?) back in 1953. Internationalism and foreign intrigue do this nation no good. OswaldTheOsprey But if the Iranian State says there are no Iranian soldiers and agents in Iraq- and if we execute them when we catch them in Iraq, did anyone really die? If Iran refuses to acknowledge that they have personnel in Iraq then the question of “rights” never arises. |
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« Reply #51 on: July 18, 2008, 11:38:26 AM » |
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I would summarily execute any Iranian caught in Iraq- hell even Iran says that they are not there, so there could be no objections.
Fair enough, though we have people working covertly in Iran as well, so things could get pretty ugly if we went down that path. Your points are valid as far as they go. However, I would ask this: what right do we have to execute anyone in Iraq or any other foreign country? Secondly, why do we have people working covertly in Iran? Iranian mistrust of this country began with the CIA toppling Mossadagh (spelling?) back in 1953. Internationalism and foreign intrigue do this nation no good. OswaldTheOsprey But if the Iranian State says there are no Iranian soldiers and agents in Iraq- and if we execute them when we catch them in Iraq, did anyone really die? If Iran refuses to acknowledge that they have personnel in Iraq then the question of “rights” never arises. You miss the main question: why in the holy hell are we over there? OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #52 on: July 18, 2008, 11:39:36 AM » |
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Your points are valid as far as they go. However, I would ask this: what right do we have to execute anyone in Iraq or any other foreign country?
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« Reply #53 on: July 18, 2008, 12:01:19 PM » |
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We are in Iraq for one reason: it is a strategic location for the US to maintain a presence in the Middle East. The Middle East will remain a vital US interest so long as oil is the primary source of liquid fuel for the world.
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« Reply #54 on: July 18, 2008, 12:29:30 PM » |
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We are in Iraq for one reason: it is a strategic location for the US to maintain a presence in the Middle East. The Middle East will remain a vital US interest so long as oil is the primary source of liquid fuel for the world.
What you describe is more suited for an imperial power than for a humble republic. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #55 on: July 18, 2008, 01:01:57 PM » |
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We are in Iraq for one reason: it is a strategic location for the US to maintain a presence in the Middle East. The Middle East will remain a vital US interest so long as oil is the primary source of liquid fuel for the world.
What you describe is more suited for an imperial power than for a humble republic. OswaldTheOsprey so what are you, living in a tent |
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« Reply #56 on: July 18, 2008, 01:11:39 PM » |
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We are in Iraq for one reason: it is a strategic location for the US to maintain a presence in the Middle East. The Middle East will remain a vital US interest so long as oil is the primary source of liquid fuel for the world.
What you describe is more suited for an imperial power than for a humble republic. OswaldTheOsprey so what are you, living in a tent You are actually a scientific miracle: living without a brain. OswaldTheOsprey |
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« Reply #57 on: July 18, 2008, 01:18:47 PM » |
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whats the matter oz, choking on your own hypocrisy |
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« Reply #58 on: July 18, 2008, 01:51:18 PM » |
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We are in Iraq for one reason: it is a strategic location for the US to maintain a presence in the Middle East. The Middle East will remain a vital US interest so long as oil is the primary source of liquid fuel for the world.
What you describe is more suited for an imperial power than for a humble republic. OswaldTheOsprey Even a humble republic would be brought to its knees in utter defeat if OPEC shut off the oil flow. I would not describe the US’ actions as imperialistic; at least not in the sense that the word has been used in history. Imperialistic powers made their money by seizing the treasure of the lands they conquered. The US does not do this. The US creates economic opportunity in the world and creates money in an altogether historically novel way. |
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« Reply #59 on: July 18, 2008, 02:14:57 PM » |
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whats the matter oz, choking on your own hypocrisy Hypocrisy? I'm not the one who raves and rants for war but won't reveal their own background. Can anyone say chickenhawk? OswaldTheOsprey |
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