Keith Olbermann Needs to Take Obama to Task for His FISA Betrayal (video)

[Lookout]

http://www.infowars.com/?p=4051

 
 
 
Earlier this week, Keith Olbermann complained about FISA and the Justice Department’s proposed changes on domestic snooping. It was nice to hear Olbermann excoriate the government for creating an "embryonic police state," never mind this sucker is beyond gestation and growing in our midst like a tenacious weed. Olbermann took the Democrats to task for allowing the FISA revision and allowing the Bush neocons and the Justice Department to propose local cops be tapped to snoop for the feds, in other words recruited to become Stasi operatives taking orders from the DHS, FBI, and CIA, "embedded" in the neighborhood cop shop as of 2003 with the enactment of HR 3439. Ain’t nothing embryonic" about it.

Olbermann showed his real colors. He said the next president — assumed to be Obama, as Olbermann is a Democrat — will be saddled with Bush’s intelligence "embryo." Keith made it sound like Obama disapproves and the already long established and well developed snoop state apparatus will be a yoke around his neck. In fact, Obama voted in the Senate for the current FISA bill, to the chagrin of no shortage of Democrats, many now finally coming around and realizing there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans and if you turn ‘em upside down they all look alike.

Under Democrat Lyndon Johnson, the snoop state flourished, from COINTELPRO to the CIA’s Operation CHAOS and beyond. "At this time, there was an impression given to the intelligence community of ‘get the job done’ regardless of the methods," writes Major Kevin G. Donaleski, USMC.

In 1975, the Church Committee concluded government officials, in both Democrat and Republican administrations, had "violated or ignored the law over long periods of time and have advocated and defended their right to break the law" and had "undertaken the secret surveillance of citizens on the basis of their political beliefs…. primarily through secret informants, but also using other intrusive techniques such as wiretaps, microphone ‘bugs’, surreptitious mail opening, and break-ins."

Back in the day all of this was illegal. Now, under the guise of the Patriot Act, the Terrorist Surveillance Act of 2006, the Protect America Act of 2007, and a flurry of executive orders the violation of the Constitution is regarded as legal.

Obama, if elected, will not throw out these laws, or shut down the NSA’s warrantless surveillance, he will enhance them. In fact, once elected, Obama will likely organize and unleash his promised National Security Force, a secret national police force larger than anything over at the Pentagon.

Can we expect Keith Olbermann to talk about these issues come November and the selection of Barack Obama? Probably not, although he seems willing to take the Democrats in Congress to task for going along to get along with Bush and his neocon students of Carl Schmitt, the Nazi jurist who advocated a dictatorship of the executive.

It’s all partisan double talk. Far too many Democrats, apparently including Mr. Olbermann, are not really interested in restoring the Constitution and the republic. It’s all about getting their guy in office. Obama revealed his true colors when he voted for the FISA "compromise." Once in office, the Democrats will make the same old flaccid excuses now made by the neocons in order to continue the erosion of our liberty.

[OswaldTheOsprey]

Keith Olbermann is a partisan hack Democratic windbag just as Bill O'Reilly is a partisan hack Republican windbag. To hell with both of them!

OswaldTheOsprey

[Lookout]

Keith Olbermann is a partisan hack Democratic windbag just as Bill O'Reilly is a partisan hack Republican windbag. To hell with both of them!

OswaldTheOsprey

This is the most bias board I have ever seen. If someone reports something someone here doesn't want to hear or doesn't agree with, they are a hack. Incase any of you havent noticed Infowars gets most of its info from credible sources. It seems no matter what I put up here, no one wants to discuss it. It's just dismissed as nonsence. This is one of the major problems of why we are in the place we are politically, because of no one believing what is happening and denying it. Bunch of ostriches with their head...well you figure it out. Incase you haven't noticed this board is only 4 or 5 main people and no one wants to post here because of the neocon Antiamerican few who dominate this board. I will not be peused away!

[OswaldTheOsprey]

Keith Olbermann is a partisan hack Democratic windbag just as Bill O'Reilly is a partisan hack Republican windbag. To hell with both of them!

OswaldTheOsprey

This is the most bias board I have ever seen. If someone reports something someone here doesn't want to hear or doesn't agree with, they are a hack. Incase any of you havent noticed Infowars gets most of its info from credible sources. It seems no matter what I put up here, no one wants to discuss it. It's just dismissed as nonsence. This is one of the major problems of why we are in the place we are politically, because of no one believing what is happening and denying it. Bunch of ostriches with their head...well you figure it out. Incase you haven't noticed this board is only 4 or 5 main people and no one wants to post here because of the neocon Antiamerican few who dominate this board. I will not be peused away!

I did not dispute one thing you said. All I did was express my opinion of Olbermann and O'Reilly. In case you haven't noticed, I am one of the few, if not the only one, on this forum that shows you respect.

OswaldTheOsprey

[MeatMop]

It seems no matter what I put up here, no one wants to discuss it. It's just dismissed as nonsence. This is one of the major problems of why we are in the place we are politically, because of no one believing what is happening and denying it. Bunch of ostriches with their head...well you figure it out. Incase you haven't noticed this board is only 4 or 5 main people and no one wants to post here because of the neocon Antiamerican few who dominate this board. I will not be peused away!

That's a double-edged sword there, champ.  You truthers come at us with mountains of fragmented, unrelated, insignificant nonsense and demand we give credence to your conspiracy theories.  When confronted with overwhelming evidence and arguments put forth by people with legitimate scientific and engineering knowledge it is YOU who bury your heads in the sand like ostriches.

MeatMop.

[Mr. Dirlewanger]

Good points, Meat. Moreover, the "truthers" are just boring. Moreover, it doesn't help much when one simply cuts and pastes from infowars and calls it an argument. Anyway, if someone wants to talk about 9/11 and government cover ups etc, fine. The problem arises when they start said conversations with warnings about fascism and American concentration camps.

[Lookout]

Good points, Meat. Moreover, the "truthers" are just boring. Moreover, it doesn't help much when one simply cuts and pastes from infowars and calls it an argument. Anyway, if someone wants to talk about 9/11 and government cover ups etc, fine. The problem arises when they start said conversations with warnings about fascism and American concentration camps.

Point noted, however, one can not deny the fact that A police state is very well under way and only steps away from marshall law. Also, the steps taken by the Bush Regime very much resemble the steps taken by Hitler in the early 30's. Fascism in Germany did not happen over night. It was done in a series of planned law manipulations which slowly eradicated the peoples rights and was a slow takeover and changeover into fascism.
So, very sorry to ruffle feathers of those not wanting to look at this aspect of history repeating itself. Just because someone can not accept a fact as it is and just because someone denies the facts does not make the way they see it or want it true. Put a Helmut on and take a deep breath and swallow! I do not do this to attack you and I am sorry if you feel attacked. Perhaps what you are defending is your own ignorance. I mean that in the true context of the word. I am ignorant about anything I have not researched or studdied or educated myself on. If one continues to "ignore" a certain subject, then they remain "Ignorant". There is alot about you mr. d that I admire. You are passionate about what you believe and you seem well educated. You just seem closed minded on certain subjects. So, my question to you is...How much have you researched about 911 and the lot of other subjects you have a hard time wrapping your head around?
I will even do you one better...You watch Loosechange 2 edition and I wil watch something you would like for me to watch and then we can discuss them. If nothing else I will learn something and possibly see things how you see them. It is said that before you say something that will get someone so riled as to take a swing at you, to walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you do, you are a mile away, and you have their shoes.

[conley]

Keith Olbermann is a partisan hack Democratic windbag just as Bill O'Reilly is a partisan hack Republican windbag. To hell with both of them!

OswaldTheOsprey

amen brother!

rather than saying "Keith Olbermann Needs to Take Obama to Task for His FISA Betrayal (video)"

i'd change it to "Keith Olbermann Needs to STFU"

 

[gorknoids]

Keith Olbermann is a partisan hack Democratic windbag just as Bill O'Reilly is a partisan hack Republican windbag. To hell with both of them!

OswaldTheOsprey

This is the most bias board I have ever seen. If someone reports something someone here doesn't want to hear or doesn't agree with, they are a hack. Incase any of you havent noticed Infowars gets most of its info from credible sources. It seems no matter what I put up here, no one wants to discuss it. It's just dismissed as nonsence. This is one of the major problems of why we are in the place we are politically, because of no one believing what is happening and denying it. Bunch of ostriches with their head...well you figure it out. Incase you haven't noticed this board is only 4 or 5 main people and no one wants to post here because of the neocon Antiamerican few who dominate this board. I will not be peused away!

Actually, it's because you and Olbermann don't have a clue about anything, so you just spout anti-American bullshit and hope some other brain-stem accepts it as legit.

[MeatMop]

Your whole post is nonsense.

Point noted, however, one can not deny the fact that A police state is very well under way and only steps away from marshall law.

I deny it.

Also, the steps taken by the Bush Regime very much resemble the steps taken by Hitler in the early 30's. Fascism in Germany did not happen over night. It was done in a series of planned law manipulations which slowly eradicated the peoples rights and was a slow takeover and changeover into fascism.

Bullshit.  Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor in 1933.  In 1939, in only his 6th year after coming to power, Hitler had begun the Holocaust, by which time Jews had been stripped entirely of their rights and were being murdered by the millions.

Bush has been in power almost 8 years.  There is no modern day Holocaust in America.  There is no fascism in America.  The only "right" you have lost under the Patriot Act is the right to conduct international phone calls with suspected terrorists without being listened to.  Cry me a fucking river.

The only facet of modern-day America that even remotely resembles 1930's Germany is the tendency of belligerent asshole liberals to disrupt conservative speeches, shout down conservative opposition, and intimidate conservative speakers.  Don't believe me?  Click the link and educate your dumb ass...or as you put it: "Do some research." http://brain-terminal.com/posts/2006/10/09/what-passes-for-tolerance-and-diversity

So, very sorry to ruffle feathers of those not wanting to look at this aspect of history repeating itself. Just because someone can not accept a fact as it is and just because someone denies the facts does not make the way they see it or want it true. Put a Helmut on and take a deep breath and swallow! I do not do this to attack you and I am sorry if you feel attacked.

I don't feel attacked.  The only things you've attacked are common sense, decency, and intellect.  Since those are all abstract virtues I feel compelled to defend them using the same fervor you've attacked them with.  Sorry if you weren't prepared for a response.  I doubt you expected it; most people probably ignore you.

Perhaps what you are defending is your own ignorance. I mean that in the true context of the word. I am ignorant about anything I have not researched or studdied or educated myself on. If one continues to "ignore" a certain subject, then they remain "Ignorant". There is alot about you mr. d that I admire. You are passionate about what you believe and you seem well educated. You just seem closed minded on certain subjects. So, my question to you is...How much have you researched about 911 and the lot of other subjects you have a hard time wrapping your head around?

OK motherfucker, what makes you qualified to judge how well I comprehend a situation?  I don't normally play this card...but what formal education are you equipped with?  I have an engineering degree from a top-tier engineering school.  I have studied physics; I have studied structures and spans...at a relatively high level I might add.  Does that make me qualified to testify before congress regarding exactly how and why the towers fell?  NO.  But that does make me qualified to read and knowledgeably interpret the explanations in Popular Mechanics and judge for myself with more than a reasonable amount of certainty that their explanations were grounded in science, absolutely truthful, and more adequately thorough. 

I will even do you one better...You watch Loosechange 2 edition and I wil watch something you would like for me to watch and then we can discuss them.

What good is discussing either movie if you have no comprehension of physics?  But if you feel compelled: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

It is said that before you say something that will get someone so riled as to take a swing at you, to walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you do, you are a mile away, and you have their shoes.

I am not so riled up as to take a swing at you; I'm just wiggling my fingers man.  Maybe you're projecting your anger, frustrations, and desires on me?  Maybe you ignorantly assume that all conservatives want to solve personal conflicts with violence?  All I'm trying to do is correct your intelligence deficiency since you so have so persistently asked me to.

MeatMop.

PS: What's your favorite beer?
PPS: If you want to walk a mile in my shoes, here's a website I like: http://www.ejectejecteject.com

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

Keith Olbermann is a partisan hack Democratic windbag just as Bill O'Reilly is a partisan hack Republican windbag. To hell with both of them!

OswaldTheOsprey

amen brother!

rather than saying "Keith Olbermann Needs to Take Obama to Task for His FISA Betrayal (video)"

i'd change it to "Keith Olbermann Needs to STFU"

 

i think that olbermann is more of a loon but oriely is the greater irritant.

[OswaldTheOsprey]

Keith Olbermann is a partisan hack Democratic windbag just as Bill O'Reilly is a partisan hack Republican windbag. To hell with both of them!

OswaldTheOsprey

amen brother!

rather than saying "Keith Olbermann Needs to Take Obama to Task for His FISA Betrayal (video)"

i'd change it to "Keith Olbermann Needs to STFU"

 

As does O'Reilly.

OswaldTheOsprey

[Lookout]

Your whole post is nonsense.

Point noted, however, one can not deny the fact that A police state is very well under way and only steps away from marshall law.

I deny it.

Also, the steps taken by the Bush Regime very much resemble the steps taken by Hitler in the early 30's. Fascism in Germany did not happen over night. It was done in a series of planned law manipulations which slowly eradicated the peoples rights and was a slow takeover and changeover into fascism.

Bullshit.  Hitler was sworn in as Chancellor in 1933.  In 1939, in only his 6th year after coming to power, Hitler had begun the Holocaust, by which time Jews had been stripped entirely of their rights and were being murdered by the millions.

Bush has been in power almost 8 years.  There is no modern day Holocaust in America.  There is no fascism in America.  The only "right" you have lost under the Patriot Act is the right to conduct international phone calls with suspected terrorists without being listened to.  Cry me a fucking river.

The only facet of modern-day America that even remotely resembles 1930's Germany is the tendency of belligerent asshole liberals to disrupt conservative speeches, shout down conservative opposition, and intimidate conservative speakers.  Don't believe me?  Click the link and educate your dumb ass...or as you put it: "Do some research." http://brain-terminal.com/posts/2006/10/09/what-passes-for-tolerance-and-diversity

So, very sorry to ruffle feathers of those not wanting to look at this aspect of history repeating itself. Just because someone can not accept a fact as it is and just because someone denies the facts does not make the way they see it or want it true. Put a Helmut on and take a deep breath and swallow! I do not do this to attack you and I am sorry if you feel attacked.

I don't feel attacked.  The only things you've attacked are common sense, decency, and intellect.  Since those are all abstract virtues I feel compelled to defend them using the same fervor you've attacked them with.  Sorry if you weren't prepared for a response.  I doubt you expected it; most people probably ignore you.

Perhaps what you are defending is your own ignorance. I mean that in the true context of the word. I am ignorant about anything I have not researched or studdied or educated myself on. If one continues to "ignore" a certain subject, then they remain "Ignorant". There is alot about you mr. d that I admire. You are passionate about what you believe and you seem well educated. You just seem closed minded on certain subjects. So, my question to you is...How much have you researched about 911 and the lot of other subjects you have a hard time wrapping your head around?

OK motherfucker, what makes you qualified to judge how well I comprehend a situation?  I don't normally play this card...but what formal education are you equipped with?  I have an engineering degree from a top-tier engineering school.  I have studied physics; I have studied structures and spans...at a relatively high level I might add.  Does that make me qualified to testify before congress regarding exactly how and why the towers fell?  NO.  But that does make me qualified to read and knowledgeably interpret the explanations in Popular Mechanics and judge for myself with more than a reasonable amount of certainty that their explanations were grounded in science, absolutely truthful, and more adequately thorough. 

I will even do you one better...You watch Loosechange 2 edition and I wil watch something you would like for me to watch and then we can discuss them.

What good is discussing either movie if you have no comprehension of physics?  But if you feel compelled: http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html

It is said that before you say something that will get someone so riled as to take a swing at you, to walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you do, you are a mile away, and you have their shoes.

I am not so riled up as to take a swing at you; I'm just wiggling my fingers man.  Maybe you're projecting your anger, frustrations, and desires on me?  Maybe you ignorantly assume that all conservatives want to solve personal conflicts with violence?  All I'm trying to do is correct your intelligence deficiency since you so have so persistently asked me to.

MeatMop.

PS: What's your favorite beer?
PPS: If you want to walk a mile in my shoes, here's a website I like: http://www.ejectejecteject.com

Wow are you misinformed! Please see my latest post..."This is what rights your government has taken from you"