mOST aMERICANS BELIEVE IN cREATIONISM.

[AC]

Just so you know:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/22/opinion/polls/main657083.shtml

[hotnuke]

Most children under four believe in Santa. Should we schedule an expedition to find his house in the North Pole?...lol

[HomieDontPlay]

More anti-social junk from AC, he who doesn't know his ass from a sewer pipe. 

[Vermouth]

Nothing wrong with believing it allegorically. But literally? That's kooky.

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

Nothing wrong with believing it allegorically. But literally? That's kooky.

"there are more things in heaven and hell then are dreamed of in your philosophy"   

[Vermouth]

"there are more things in heaven and hell then are dreamed of in your philosophy"   

Is that a quote? What's it from?

[HomieDontPlay]

Nothing wrong with believing it allegorically. But literally? That's kooky.

Yeah.....Intelligent Design is my preference. Catholic tradition leans toward an interpretive approach to reading the Bible. Literal interpretation is more of a Protestant thing.

[Vermouth]

Nothing wrong with believing it allegorically. But literally? That's kooky.

Yeah.....Intelligent Design is my preference. Catholic tradition leans toward an interpretive approach to reading the Bible. Literal interpretation is more of a Protestant thing.

"Intelligent design" is fine, as long as you teach it in religion, history, or anthropology class, not science. Personally, I think religion and science each have their role and it's best not to mix the two.

[AC]

Where's Homie?

I'm sure he'll want to wax on about Catholic Rule and his affinity for Locke.

[conley]

"there are more things in heaven and hell then are dreamed of in your philosophy"   

Is that a quote? What's it from?

seconded

[SDML]

The reason more Americans believe in creationsim (and Intel-Design) than in evolution is because of the rampant scientific illiteracy in America.

"there are more things in heaven and hell then are dreamed of in your philosophy"   

Is that a quote? What's it from?

That's Shakespeare. Hamlet & Horatio are chatting up some ghost near the beginning of the play (Act 1, scene 5). Horatio says "this shit is weird" and Hamlet responds all long-winded like, including said quote, instead of rushing off to have sex with his mother.

Yeah.....Intelligent Design is my preference. Catholic tradition leans toward an interpretive approach to reading the Bible. Literal interpretation is more of a Protestant thing.

Is that a joke? Geeezzzzzz........

Intelligent Design IS biblical literalism, friend.

"Intelligent design" is fine, as long as you teach it in religion, history, or anthropology class, not science. Personally, I think religion and science each have their role and it's best not to mix the two.

UUUUUGGGHHH!!! Intelligent Design should not be taught in public schools at all, and most certainly not in anthropology or history class. ID is pseudo-scientific bullshit of the highest order - creationism in the faux clothes of science, dressed up to do make-believe, and nothing more.

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

maybe the reason that more people believe in creationism or intelligent design than evolution is that man is innately spiritual.  for many even at a great distance there is recognition.   

[SDML]

Supposing your assertion is correct (that man is innately spiritual - whatever it is you may mean by that), that still doesn't address scientific illiteracy.

Creationism is biblical literalism, which can only be accepted if one doesn't accept as valid scientific claims (and, more importantly, the process of science). My guess is that if you asked 100 people to explain "creationsim", most of them could manage an adequate explanation, but if you then asked them to explain "science", only a handful would manage an adequate explanation.

You've argued in the past that we need to revamp the educational system in the US. This is one HUGE piece of evidence to support your assertion.

Al that said, perhaps you'd like to expound (perhaps in a separate thread) as to what you mean by "spiritual"?

[they call me MR. GRUMPY god damn it!]

maybe your/our problem in understanding lies in the fact that we are merely men trying to read the mind of god?  man being man, rejects an authority greater than his own out of hubris, ignorance and convenience?  how damning is it to place our decisions and behaviors within a moral context?  maybe man is constantly striking out against nature because in nature we have before us the hand of god?  build a bridge, cover it with asphalt, pollute and poison until the hand of god is unrecognizable and then and only then can we convince ourselves and others that we are in fact god, free to act without moral restraint.

[AC]

I think Grumpy nailed the Republican perspective nicely!