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« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2008, 08:14:11 PM »

they only had two seasons...it got crazy expensive i think, but they were willing to do it for a couple of years. it was a great show that knew when to quit.
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« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2008, 08:53:47 PM »

all i know about jersey italians is gleaned from the sopranos  Grin

please don't have me whacked mister d  Wink

Idiot goomba greaseballs look to Tony Soprano and Michael Corleone instead of Vivaldi, Machiavelli, the Caesars, Galileo, and countless other great Italians.

I remember reading where an Italian had enough of a smug and superior acting Brit and told him: My ancestors were at the center of the civilized world when your ancestors still lived in caves! Wink

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« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2008, 09:48:28 PM »

Syndicated columnist Robert D. Novak was cited by police after he hit a pedestrian with his black Corvette in downtown Washington, D.C., on Wednesday morning.

A Politico reporter saw Novak in the front of a police car with a citation in his hand; a WJLA-TV crew and reporter saw Novak as well. The pedestrian, a 66-year-old man who was not further identified by authorities, was treated at George Washington University Hospital for minor injuries, according to D.C. Fire and EMS. Novak was later released by police and drove away from the scene.

“I didn’t know I hit him. ... I feel terrible,” a shaken Novak told reporters from Politico and WJLA as he was returning to his car. "He's not dead, that's the main thing." Novak said he was a block away from 18th and K streets Northwest, where the accident occurred, when a bicyclist stopped him and said he had hit someone. He said he was cited for failing to yield the right of way.

The bicyclist was David Bono, a partner at Harkins Cunningham, who was on his usual bike commute to work at 1700 K St. N.W. when he witnessed the accident.

As he traveled east on K Street, crossing 18th, Bono said "a black Corvette convertible with top closed plows into the guy. The guy is sort of splayed into the windshield.”

Bono said that the pedestrian, who was crossing the street on a "Walk" signal and was in the crosswalk, rolled off the windshield and that Novak then made a right into the service lane of K Street. “This car is speeding away. What’s going through my mind is, you just can’t hit a pedestrian and drive away,” Bono said.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0708/11985.html

How can you NOT notice hitting someone and having them bounce off your windshield Huh



                     Novak was the same creep who found himself in the middle of the Valerie Plame leak.
                  He didn't want to give up Karl Rove, being the lackey that he is.
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« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2008, 10:04:29 PM »

You sir are nothing but a bucket-carrier.

Journalist Bob Woodward of The Washington Post revealed on November 15, 2005 that "a government official with no axe to grind" leaked to him the identity of outed CIA officer Valerie Plame in mid-June 2003. According to an April 2006 Vanity Fair article (published March 14, 2006), former Washington Post executive editor Ben Bradlee said in an interview "that Armitage is the likely source is a fair assumption," though Bradlee later told the Post that he "[did] not recall making that precise statement" in the interview.[10]
On March 2, 2006, bloggers discovered that "Richard Armitage" fit the spacing on a redacted court document, suggesting he was a source for the Plame leak.[11]
On August 21, 2006, the Associated Press published a story that revealed Armitage met with Bob Woodward in mid-June 2003. The information came from official State Department calendars, provided to The Associated Press under the Freedom of Information Act.[12]
In the September 4, 2006 issue of Newsweek magazine, in an article titled "The Man Who Said Too Much", journalist Michael Isikoff, quoting a "source directly familiar with the conversation who asked not to be identified because of legal sensitivities", reported that Armitage was the "primary" source for Robert Novak's piece outing Plame. Armitage allegedly mentioned Ms. Wilson's CIA role to Novak in a July 8, 2003 interview after learning about her status from a State Department memo which made no reference to her undercover status.[13] Isikoff also reported that Armitage had also told Bob Woodward of Plame's identity in June 2003, and that special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald investigated Armitage's role "aggressively", but did not charge Armitage with a crime because he "found no evidence that Armitage knew of Plame's covert CIA status when he talked to Novak and Woodward".
Novak, in an August 27, 2006 appearance on Meet the Press, stated that although he still would not release the name of his source, he felt it was long overdue that the source reveal himself.[14]
Armitage has also reportedly been a cooperative and key witness in the investigation.[15] According to The Washington Note, Armitage has testified before the grand jury three times.[16]
On August 29, 2006 Neil A. Lewis of The New York Times reported that Armitage was the "initial and primary source" for columnist Robert Novak's July 14, 2003 article, which named Valerie Plame as a CIA "operative" and which triggered the CIA leak investigation.[17] On August 30, 2006, CNN reported that Armitage had been confirmed "by sources" as leaking Ms. Wilson's CIA role in a "casual conversation" with Robert Novak.[18] The New York Times, quoting people "familiar with his actions", reported that Armitage was unaware of Ms. Wilson's undercover status when he spoke to Novak.[19]
The Times claims that White House counsel Alberto Gonzales was informed that Armitage was involved on October 2, 2003, but asked not to be told details. Patrick Fitzgerald began his grand jury investigation three months later knowing Armitage was a leaker (as did Attorney General John Ashcroft before turning over the investigation).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Armitage

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« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2008, 10:09:13 PM »

Peter is bitch slapping libs left and right...post traumatic syndrome?  Cheesy Cheesy Wink
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« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2008, 10:15:07 PM »

all i know about jersey italians is gleaned from the sopranos  Grin

please don't have me whacked mister d  Wink

Idiot goomba greaseballs look to Tony Soprano and Michael Corleone instead of Vivaldi, Machiavelli, the Caesars, Galileo, and countless other great Italians.

I remember reading where an Italian had enough of a smug and superior acting Brit and told him: My ancestors were at the center of the civilized world when your ancestors still lived in caves! Wink

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I remember a similar instance! We are a proud people or at least we were..
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2008, 10:16:42 PM »

Peter is bitch slapping libs left and right...post traumatic syndrome?  Cheesy Cheesy Wink

I honestly don’t care if people are liberals or not.  But when they spew inaccuracies I feel the need to correct them. 
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« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2008, 10:35:08 PM »

all i know about jersey italians is gleaned from the sopranos  Grin

please don't have me whacked mister d  Wink

Idiot goomba greaseballs look to Tony Soprano and Michael Corleone instead of Vivaldi, Machiavelli, the Caesars, Galileo, and countless other great Italians.


I remember reading where an Italian had enough of a smug and superior acting Brit and told him: My ancestors were at the center of the civilized world when your ancestors still lived in caves! Wink

OswaldTheOsprey

I remember a similar instance! We are a proud people or at least we were..

Always be proud of your heritage. I am Scotch/Southern American-everybody's whipping boy!

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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2008, 11:06:14 PM »

I am 75% Prussian and 25% Scot-Irish. 

The term German work ethic was borrowed from the Prussians.  The rest of those Krauts are some lazy SOBs. 
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2008, 11:11:20 PM »

I am 75% Prussian and 25% Scot-Irish. 

The term German work ethic was borrowed from the Prussians.  The rest of those Krauts are some lazy SOBs. 
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« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2008, 11:23:17 PM »

My grandmother used to say that- god bless her soul.  She didn’t direct it towards me though.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2008, 11:37:55 PM »

My grandmother used to say that- god bless her soul.  She didn’t direct it towards me though.   Roll Eyes

Whatever the nationality, kids have their grandparents wrapped around their little fingers. Wink

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« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2008, 06:18:40 AM »

You sir are nothing but a bucket-carrier.

Journalist Bob Woodward of The Washington Post revealed on November 15, 2005 that "a government official with no axe to grind" leaked to him the identity of outed CIA officer Valerie Plame in mid-June 2003. According to an April 2006 Vanity Fair article (published March 14, 2006), former Washington Post executive editor Ben Bradlee said in an interview "that Armitage is the likely source is a fair assumption," though Bradlee later told the Post that he "[did] not recall making that precise statement" in the interview.[10]
On March 2, 2006, bloggers discovered that "Richard Armitage" fit the spacing on a redacted court document, suggesting he was a source for the Plame leak.[11]
On August 21, 2006, the Associated Press published a story that revealed Armitage met with Bob Woodward in mid-June 2003. The information came from official State Department calendars, provided to The Associated Press under the Freedom of Information Act.[12]
In the September 4, 2006 issue of Newsweek magazine, in an article titled "The Man Who Said Too Much", journalist Michael Isikoff, quoting a "source directly familiar with the conversation who asked not to be identified because of legal sensitivities", reported that Armitage was the "primary" source for Robert Novak's piece outing Plame. Armitage allegedly mentioned Ms. Wilson's CIA role to Novak in a July 8, 2003 interview after learning about her status from a State Department memo which made no reference to her undercover status.[13] Isikoff also reported that Armitage had also told Bob Woodward of Plame's identity in June 2003, and that special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald investigated Armitage's role "aggressively", but did not charge Armitage with a crime because he "found no evidence that Armitage knew of Plame's covert CIA status when he talked to Novak and Woodward".
Novak, in an August 27, 2006 appearance on Meet the Press, stated that although he still would not release the name of his source, he felt it was long overdue that the source reveal himself.[14]
Armitage has also reportedly been a cooperative and key witness in the investigation.[15] According to The Washington Note, Armitage has testified before the grand jury three times.[16]
On August 29, 2006 Neil A. Lewis of The New York Times reported that Armitage was the "initial and primary source" for columnist Robert Novak's July 14, 2003 article, which named Valerie Plame as a CIA "operative" and which triggered the CIA leak investigation.[17] On August 30, 2006, CNN reported that Armitage had been confirmed "by sources" as leaking Ms. Wilson's CIA role in a "casual conversation" with Robert Novak.[18] The New York Times, quoting people "familiar with his actions", reported that Armitage was unaware of Ms. Wilson's undercover status when he spoke to Novak.[19]
The Times claims that White House counsel Alberto Gonzales was informed that Armitage was involved on October 2, 2003, but asked not to be told details. Patrick Fitzgerald began his grand jury investigation three months later knowing Armitage was a leaker (as did Attorney General John Ashcroft before turning over the investigation).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Armitage

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            I really cant respect a person that gets their information from "wikipedia", where anyone can write into it as fact. You sir are the right wing bucket carrier. Read Valerie Plames' book "My Lfe As Spy, My Betrayal By The Whitehouse".
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« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2008, 06:42:31 AM »

You sir are nothing but a bucket-carrier.

Journalist Bob Woodward of The Washington Post revealed on November 15, 2005 that "a government official with no axe to grind" leaked to him the identity of outed CIA officer Valerie Plame in mid-June 2003. According to an April 2006 Vanity Fair article (published March 14, 2006), former Washington Post executive editor Ben Bradlee said in an interview "that Armitage is the likely source is a fair assumption," though Bradlee later told the Post that he "[did] not recall making that precise statement" in the interview.[10]
On March 2, 2006, bloggers discovered that "Richard Armitage" fit the spacing on a redacted court document, suggesting he was a source for the Plame leak.[11]
On August 21, 2006, the Associated Press published a story that revealed Armitage met with Bob Woodward in mid-June 2003. The information came from official State Department calendars, provided to The Associated Press under the Freedom of Information Act.[12]
In the September 4, 2006 issue of Newsweek magazine, in an article titled "The Man Who Said Too Much", journalist Michael Isikoff, quoting a "source directly familiar with the conversation who asked not to be identified because of legal sensitivities", reported that Armitage was the "primary" source for Robert Novak's piece outing Plame. Armitage allegedly mentioned Ms. Wilson's CIA role to Novak in a July 8, 2003 interview after learning about her status from a State Department memo which made no reference to her undercover status.[13] Isikoff also reported that Armitage had also told Bob Woodward of Plame's identity in June 2003, and that special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald investigated Armitage's role "aggressively", but did not charge Armitage with a crime because he "found no evidence that Armitage knew of Plame's covert CIA status when he talked to Novak and Woodward".
Novak, in an August 27, 2006 appearance on Meet the Press, stated that although he still would not release the name of his source, he felt it was long overdue that the source reveal himself.[14]
Armitage has also reportedly been a cooperative and key witness in the investigation.[15] According to The Washington Note, Armitage has testified before the grand jury three times.[16]
On August 29, 2006 Neil A. Lewis of The New York Times reported that Armitage was the "initial and primary source" for columnist Robert Novak's July 14, 2003 article, which named Valerie Plame as a CIA "operative" and which triggered the CIA leak investigation.[17] On August 30, 2006, CNN reported that Armitage had been confirmed "by sources" as leaking Ms. Wilson's CIA role in a "casual conversation" with Robert Novak.[18] The New York Times, quoting people "familiar with his actions", reported that Armitage was unaware of Ms. Wilson's undercover status when he spoke to Novak.[19]
The Times claims that White House counsel Alberto Gonzales was informed that Armitage was involved on October 2, 2003, but asked not to be told details. Patrick Fitzgerald began his grand jury investigation three months later knowing Armitage was a leaker (as did Attorney General John Ashcroft before turning over the investigation).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Armitage

Now run back to your handlers for your next instructions. 

wiki, is quite generous to madam plame.  her old man was hitting the dc cocktail circuit referring to her as his cia babe and she drove through the front entrance of langley on a daily basis.  she played a pivotal role in the appointment of her husband to a politically charged assignment.  it is highly unlikely that her employment with the cia was not common knowledge to friends and associates of both she and joe.  further her role in the wilson/niger fiasco brings both her judgement, her belief in her own covert status and the practices of the cia into question.  finally, fitz never charged anyone with violating the intel id act or whatever it is called, because the law was not violated, having been authored by pols who leak classified info like bowels in a nursing home....   
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« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2008, 06:01:29 AM »

You sir are nothing but a bucket-carrier.

Journalist Bob Woodward of The Washington Post revealed on November 15, 2005 that "a government official with no axe to grind" leaked to him the identity of outed CIA officer Valerie Plame in mid-June 2003. According to an April 2006 Vanity Fair article (published March 14, 2006), former Washington Post executive editor Ben Bradlee said in an interview "that Armitage is the likely source is a fair assumption," though Bradlee later told the Post that he "[did] not recall making that precise statement" in the interview.[10]
On March 2, 2006, bloggers discovered that "Richard Armitage" fit the spacing on a redacted court document, suggesting he was a source for the Plame leak.[11]
On August 21, 2006, the Associated Press published a story that revealed Armitage met with Bob Woodward in mid-June 2003. The information came from official State Department calendars, provided to The Associated Press under the Freedom of Information Act.[12]
In the September 4, 2006 issue of Newsweek magazine, in an article titled "The Man Who Said Too Much", journalist Michael Isikoff, quoting a "source directly familiar with the conversation who asked not to be identified because of legal sensitivities", reported that Armitage was the "primary" source for Robert Novak's piece outing Plame. Armitage allegedly mentioned Ms. Wilson's CIA role to Novak in a July 8, 2003 interview after learning about her status from a State Department memo which made no reference to her undercover status.[13] Isikoff also reported that Armitage had also told Bob Woodward of Plame's identity in June 2003, and that special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald investigated Armitage's role "aggressively", but did not charge Armitage with a crime because he "found no evidence that Armitage knew of Plame's covert CIA status when he talked to Novak and Woodward".
Novak, in an August 27, 2006 appearance on Meet the Press, stated that although he still would not release the name of his source, he felt it was long overdue that the source reveal himself.[14]
Armitage has also reportedly been a cooperative and key witness in the investigation.[15] According to The Washington Note, Armitage has testified before the grand jury three times.[16]
On August 29, 2006 Neil A. Lewis of The New York Times reported that Armitage was the "initial and primary source" for columnist Robert Novak's July 14, 2003 article, which named Valerie Plame as a CIA "operative" and which triggered the CIA leak investigation.[17] On August 30, 2006, CNN reported that Armitage had been confirmed "by sources" as leaking Ms. Wilson's CIA role in a "casual conversation" with Robert Novak.[18] The New York Times, quoting people "familiar with his actions", reported that Armitage was unaware of Ms. Wilson's undercover status when he spoke to Novak.[19]
The Times claims that White House counsel Alberto Gonzales was informed that Armitage was involved on October 2, 2003, but asked not to be told details. Patrick Fitzgerald began his grand jury investigation three months later knowing Armitage was a leaker (as did Attorney General John Ashcroft before turning over the investigation).


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Armitage

Now run back to your handlers for your next instructions. 

wiki, is quite generous to madam plame.  her old man was hitting the dc cocktail circuit referring to her as his cia babe and she drove through the front entrance of langley on a daily basis.  she played a pivotal role in the appointment of her husband to a politically charged assignment.  it is highly unlikely that her employment with the cia was not common knowledge to friends and associates of both she and joe.  further her role in the wilson/niger fiasco brings both her judgement, her belief in her own covert status and the practices of the cia into question.  finally, fitz never charged anyone with violating the intel id act or whatever it is called, because the law was not violated, having been authored by pols who leak classified info like bowels in a nursing home....   

            Why would Novak, out plame to begin with? Aside from being treasonous, the guy is clearly a dirtbag


                    MR. RUSSERT:  This is the cover of your magazine:  "Rove on the Spot," subtitled "What I Told the Grand Jury," by Matthew Cooper.  And here is an excerpt from your article, which will be available tomorrow in Time magazine.

"So did [Karl] Rove leak Plame's name to me, or tell me she was covert?  No. Was it through my conversation with Rove that I learned for the first time that [Joe] Wilson's wife worked at the CIA and may have been responsible for sending him?"--to Niger.  "Yes.  Did Rove say that she worked at the `agency' on `WMD'?"--weapons of mass destruction.  "Yes.  When he said things would be declassified soon, was that itself impermissible?  I don't know."

For the record, the first time you learned that Joe Wilson's wife worked for the CIA was from Karl Rove?

MR. COOPER:  That's correct.

MR. RUSSERT:  And when Karl concluded his conversation with you, you write he said, "I've already said too much."  What did that mean?

MR. COOPER:  Well, I'm not sure what it meant, Tim.  At first, you know, I thought maybe he meant "I've been indiscreet."  But then, as I thought about it, I thought it might be just more benign, like "I've said too much; I've got to get to a meeting."  I don't know exactly what he meant, but I do know that memory of that line has stayed in my head for two years.

MR. RUSSERT:  When you were told that Joe Wilson's wife worked for the CIA, did you have any sense then that this is important or "I better be careful about identifying someone who works for the CIA"?

MR. COOPER:  Well, I certainly thought it was important.  I wrote it in the e-mail to my bosses moments later that has since leaked out after this long court battle I've been in.  You know, I certainly thought it was important. But I didn't know her name at the time until, you know, after Bob Novak's column came out.

MR. RUSSERT:  Did you have any reluctance writing something so important?

MR. COOPER:  Well, I wrote it after Bob Novak's column had come out and identified her, so I was not in, you know, danger of outing her the way he did.

MR. RUSSERT:  You also write in Time magazine this week, "This was actually my second testimony for the special prosecutor.  In August 2004, I gave limited testimony about my conversation with [Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff] Scooter Libby.  Libby had also given me a special waiver, and I gave a deposition in the office of my attorney.  I have never discussed that conversation until now.  In that testimony, I recorded an on-the-record conversation with Libby that moved to background.  On the record, he denied that Cheney knew"--of--"or played any role the Wilson trip to Niger.  On background, I asked Libby if he had heard anything about Wilson's wife sending her husband to Niger.  Libby replied, `Yeah, I've heard that, too,' or words to that effect."

Did you interpret that as a confirmation?

MR. COOPER:  I did, yeah.

MR. RUSSERT:  Did Mr. Libby say at any time that Joe Wilson's wife worked for the CIA?

MR. COOPER:  No, he didn't say that.

MR. RUSSERT:  But you said it to him?

MR. COOPER:  I said, "Was she involved in sending him?," yeah.

MR. RUSSERT:  And that she worked for the CIA?

MR. COOPER:  I believe so.

MR. RUSSERT:  The piece that you finally ran in Time magazine on July 17th, it says, "And some government officials have noted to Time in interviews, (as well as to syndicated columnist Robert Novak) that Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, is a CIA official who monitors the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.  These officials have suggested that she was involved in her husband's being dispatched to Niger..."

"Some government officials"--That is Rove and Libby?

MR. COOPER:  Yes, those were among the sources for that, yeah.

MR. RUSSERT:  Are there more?

MR. COOPER:  I don't want to get into it, but it's possible.

MR. RUSSERT:  Have you told the grand jury about that?

MR. COOPER:  The grand jury knows what I know, yes.

MR. RUSSERT:  That there may have been more sources?

MR. COOPER:  Yes.

MR. RUSSERT:  The big discussion, Matt Cooper, has been about your willingness to testify...

MR. COOPER:  Sure.

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