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Re: Closing the Achievement Gap
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2011, 02:17:30 PM »
Wow immigrants who have to work in the fields to make ends meet make less than the guys on Wall Street. What a surprise. If this were the land of opportunity people claim then you wouldn't see a gap like this. Give hispanic kids the same chances as white kids and you'll see theres no difference.

That would requite white mothers giving birth to them. I don't think that's scientifically possible right now but who knows what is coming down the pike?  ;D
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Re: Closing the Achievement Gap
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2011, 02:20:17 PM »
Does that statistic include those who are born multi-racial?

You mean Sicilians?  ;) ;D

Not sure. The multi-racial population is tiny.

What I mean......Latins are mingling with other races moreso than they ever have in their history. As native born hispanics. They still would be counted as hispanic if mixed.

The problem is that Hispanic is a linguistic term. A substantial number of Hispanics are of the white race or predominantly of European ancestry.
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Re: Closing the Achievement Gap
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2011, 02:23:24 PM »
Yep, I do see all kinds of mixing out here in CA. It's really hard to tell what's going on with all the different flavors...wait, are we still talking about pizza?  ;D

Seriously though, it does seem like there is a lot of mixing of the people out here. Throw in the confusion about Hispanic being a 'race' and it becomes even tougher to tell. I would guess in this study we're talking about people who self-identify as Hispanic.

There is actually a lot less interracial marriage than you'd expect in a state as diverse as the US. It would be much more accurate to describe Hispanic/out-group marriages as interethnic. I'm attracted to plenty of Hispanic women but they are almost always of European descent.

Yes, it's actually easy to tell.  ;D And if I'm not sure I have egentic testing done. It's not very romantic and it's sometimes a deal breaker but I'm a man of principle.  :D :D :o :P
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Re: Closing the Achievement Gap
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2011, 02:32:25 PM »
Yep, I do see all kinds of mixing out here in CA. It's really hard to tell what's going on with all the different flavors...wait, are we still talking about pizza?  ;D

Seriously though, it does seem like there is a lot of mixing of the people out here. Throw in the confusion about Hispanic being a 'race' and it becomes even tougher to tell. I would guess in this study we're talking about people who self-identify as Hispanic.

There is actually a lot less interracial marriage than you'd expect in a state as diverse as the US. It would be much more accurate to describe Hispanic/out-group marriages as interethnic. I'm attracted to plenty of Hispanic women but they are almost always of European descent.

Yes, it's actually easy to tell.  ;D And if I'm not sure I have egentic testing done. It's not very romantic and it's sometimes a deal breaker but I'm a man of principle.  :D :D :o :P

 :D

It would have been easy to tell the difference a few generations ago IMO but it's harder now. Isn't it a given that there's more racial mixing now than there was when the Europeans first got to the new world? So doesn't it follow that there would be more mixed people, since we were starting from zero? I agree that it would be easy to tell the difference if a person had all European ancestors or all indigenous, but there are always those deviants (kidding  ;D) in the family who have to go be rebellious and shock Mom and Dad.

Maybe it just depends on the person...I don't see a lot of white and black marriages but I see all kinds of whites and Hispanics of different shades and all mixed up.
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Re: Closing the Achievement Gap
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2011, 02:35:42 PM »
Someone help me out here, is Jennifer Lopez White, Black, Hispanic, or all three?  ;D Hell if I know. Those Fiat commercials are annoying though. I'm sure she drives a car like that around the ghetto.  ::)
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Re: Closing the Achievement Gap
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2011, 02:36:32 PM »
Does that statistic include those who are born multi-racial?

You mean Sicilians?  ;) ;D

Not sure. The multi-racial population is tiny.

What I mean......Latins are mingling with other races moreso than they ever have in their history. As native born hispanics. They still would be counted as hispanic if mixed.

The problem is that Hispanic is a linguistic term. A substantial number of Hispanics are of the white race or predominantly of European ancestry.

Technically most european ancestry comes from the Romans.

Naturally back when the Romans and Etruscans were village people they had to have somebody to teach them the finer arts of negotiation. Plus we had to teach them what was worth value. Women. Theres just so many pieces to a Cherry Pie.  :D   
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Re: Closing the Achievement Gap
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2011, 02:37:14 PM »
Yep, I do see all kinds of mixing out here in CA. It's really hard to tell what's going on with all the different flavors...wait, are we still talking about pizza?  ;D

Seriously though, it does seem like there is a lot of mixing of the people out here. Throw in the confusion about Hispanic being a 'race' and it becomes even tougher to tell. I would guess in this study we're talking about people who self-identify as Hispanic.

There is actually a lot less interracial marriage than you'd expect in a state as diverse as the US. It would be much more accurate to describe Hispanic/out-group marriages as interethnic. I'm attracted to plenty of Hispanic women but they are almost always of European descent.

Yes, it's actually easy to tell.  ;D And if I'm not sure I have egentic testing done. It's not very romantic and it's sometimes a deal breaker but I'm a man of principle.  :D :D :o :P

 :D

It would have been easy to tell the difference a few generations ago IMO but it's harder now. Isn't it a given that there's more racial mixing now than there was when the Europeans first got to the new world? So doesn't it follow that there would be more mixed people, since we were starting from zero? I agree that it would be easy to tell the difference if a person had all European ancestors or all indigenous, but there are always those deviants (kidding  ;D) in the family who have to go be rebellious and shock Mom and Dad.

Maybe it just depends on the person...I don't see a lot of white and black marriages but I see all kinds of whites and Hispanics of different shades and all mixed up.
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It depends. English colonists brought families with them. The Spanish typically didn't so there was a lot of racial mixing in Spanish America. That's why we have mestizos.

The most common interracial pairing in the US is between white men and Asian women.

There are a substantial number of white/Hispanic pairings but they are often simply a typical white pairing at least in racial terms.
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Re: Closing the Achievement Gap
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2011, 02:45:53 PM »
Someone help me out here, is Jennifer Lopez White, Black, Hispanic, or all three?  ;D Hell if I know. Those Fiat commercials are annoying though. I'm sure she drives a car like that around the ghetto.  ::)


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Re: Closing the Achievement Gap
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2011, 02:46:27 PM »
I didn't know that about white men and Asian women. Interesting.
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Re: Closing the Achievement Gap
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2011, 02:49:01 PM »
I didn't know that about white men and Asian women. Interesting.

It kind of makes sense when you consider the small pool of marriagable Asian men and the fact that some white men don;t like modern feminist women.
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