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Re: SCOTUS TO TAKE UP OBAMACARE
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2011, 10:39:18 AM »
Which also means they will have a decision before the End of Obama's Term.
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Re: SCOTUS TO TAKE UP OBAMACARE
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2011, 10:45:13 AM »
It says the final decision will handed down in June. I'd imagine that a ruling against Obamacare will be a serious blow to his reelection campaign but it will receive quite a boost if it passes.

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The government maintains that the Interstate Commerce Clause of the Constitution authorizes the federal government to order all Americans to buy health insurance. The plaintiffs in Florida v. HHS and numerous other challenges to the "reform" law assert that even the broadest interpretation of that clause does not permit Congress to regulate "inactivity." In other words, it may allow the government to prevent a citizen from engaging in an "activity" like growing medicinal marijuana, but it cannot possibly authorize Congress to regulate something a citizen is not doing -- like failing to buy insurance.

Scary stuff.
even more scary is that as this has bounced about in the lower courts the govt has repeatedly been challenged to give an example of what the govt might not be able to compel citizens to purchase given their understanding of the commerce clause.....the govt has had no answer for this query.....this really represents the end of liberty in this nation.....i might say that i found it rather odd still that no one raised a 14th amendment challenge to the undefined/arbitrary waiver aspects of this law as well.....

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Re: SCOTUS TO TAKE UP OBAMACARE
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2011, 11:00:31 AM »
It says the final decision will handed down in June. I'd imagine that a ruling against Obamacare will be a serious blow to his reelection campaign but it will receive quite a boost if it passes.

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The government maintains that the Interstate Commerce Clause of the Constitution authorizes the federal government to order all Americans to buy health insurance. The plaintiffs in Florida v. HHS and numerous other challenges to the "reform" law assert that even the broadest interpretation of that clause does not permit Congress to regulate "inactivity." In other words, it may allow the government to prevent a citizen from engaging in an "activity" like growing medicinal marijuana, but it cannot possibly authorize Congress to regulate something a citizen is not doing -- like failing to buy insurance.

Scary stuff.
even more scary is that as this has bounced about in the lower courts the govt has repeatedly been challenged to give an example of what the govt might not be able to compel citizens to purchase given their understanding of the commerce clause.....the govt has had no answer for this query.....this really represents the end of liberty in this nation.....i might say that i found it rather odd still that no one raised a 14th amendment challenge to the undefined/arbitrary waiver aspects of this law as well.....

If the court rules in the imperial government's favor no doubt you're right.
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Re: SCOTUS TO TAKE UP OBAMACARE
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2011, 11:02:12 AM »
Which also means they will have a decision before the End of Obama's Term.

It will definitely impact his reelection campaign.
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Re: SCOTUS TO TAKE UP OBAMACARE
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2011, 11:23:37 AM »
Which also means they will have a decision before the End of Obama's Term.

It will definitely impact his reelection campaign.
obama attempted to slow walk this and then did an about face, i think they believe they can get this off the table one way or the other.....if the court upholds this law he inspires his base and if not he motivates his base, see we were just one justice short.....this is a 5-4 one way or the other, i would not want to bet on the constitutional fidelity of justice kennedy and kagan will not recuse......

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Re: SCOTUS TO TAKE UP OBAMACARE
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2011, 11:59:30 AM »
Which also means they will have a decision before the End of Obama's Term.

It will definitely impact his reelection campaign.
obama attempted to slow walk this and then did an about face, i think they believe they can get this off the table one way or the other.....if the court upholds this law he inspires his base and if not he motivates his base, see we were just one justice short.....this is a 5-4 one way or the other, i would not want to bet on the constitutional fidelity of justice kennedy and kagan will not recuse......

We've got the Supreme Court on our side, and we're going to have it for a long long time. Sorry guys. Well not really sorry LOL Thanks for paying for my health care I appreciate it
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Re: SCOTUS TO TAKE UP OBAMACARE
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2011, 12:29:02 PM »
Which also means they will have a decision before the End of Obama's Term.

It will definitely impact his reelection campaign.
obama attempted to slow walk this and then did an about face, i think they believe they can get this off the table one way or the other.....if the court upholds this law he inspires his base and if not he motivates his base, see we were just one justice short.....this is a 5-4 one way or the other, i would not want to bet on the constitutional fidelity of justice kennedy and kagan will not recuse......

We've got the Supreme Court on our side, and we're going to have it for a long long time. Sorry guys. Well not really sorry LOL Thanks for paying for my health care I appreciate it

Quite the fascist you are!
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Re: SCOTUS TO TAKE UP OBAMACARE
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2011, 12:57:25 PM »
The Supreme Court shouldn't have "sides".
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Re: SCOTUS TO TAKE UP OBAMACARE
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2011, 01:28:58 PM »
The Supreme Court shouldn't have "sides".

Exactly.
"Pushing people forward simply because of their colour, irrespective of merit, would be most unfortunate and would of course lead to disaster. It would mean that Rhodesia would then develop into a kind of banana republic where the country would in no time be bankrupt."


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Re: SCOTUS TO TAKE UP OBAMACARE
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2011, 03:51:45 PM »
Which also means they will have a decision before the End of Obama's Term.

It will definitely impact his reelection campaign.
obama attempted to slow walk this and then did an about face, i think they believe they can get this off the table one way or the other.....if the court upholds this law he inspires his base and if not he motivates his base, see we were just one justice short.....this is a 5-4 one way or the other, i would not want to bet on the constitutional fidelity of justice kennedy and kagan will not recuse......

We've got the Supreme Court on our side, and we're going to have it for a long long time. Sorry guys. Well not really sorry LOL Thanks for paying for my health care I appreciate it

Quite the fascist you are!
d, you give fgeer credit where none is due, by this i mean that jgeer has no clue as to what his side is he just anticipates getting something for nothing.....if you asked him whether he believes that justices and elected federal officials should honor their oath of office and exercise fidelity to the constitution jgeer and his ilk would be lost for an answer he doesn't even know what the constitution is.....he desires not liberty and the naturally attached responsibility for ones self, no he desires comfortable serfdom and a kindly master....."a govt big enough to give you everything you need is big enough to take everything you have"....for the jgeers of this world, now and in the future happiness and fulfillment of ones self are and will be dependent upon having no more than the govt will give them and wanting no more than that which is provided for them....ironic that in this nation's history some 700.000 men died to make men free only to have men desire to be shackled.....   

 


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