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Offline Peter1469

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Re: Educational scam
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 05:49:03 PM »
The costs of college got out of control as the federal government provided more assistance to students. 


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Re: Educational scam
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2011, 05:51:30 PM »
Who said one would be guaranteed a good paying job with a college degree?

This is the liberal mindset at it's best, expect to have everything handed to you.  Like grumpy suggested, getting a schlocky degree will land you a schlocky job.  You have to earn that job after you have earned a degree - that's the obvious answer that is clear to everyone except liberals.

And this is the irony with the jobless OWS dirtbags.  They're out there lawlessly disrupting commerce because the protest seems like a cool thing to do but at the end of the day, if they focused their energy to getting a quality education coupled with working hard, they could be earning those huge bonuses that WS execs are being paid.

Nothing is stopping them other than their complacency.

Right. No one said that.

I would disagree, at least in the world of law school.

Law Schools routinely publish employment data that is misleading at best and fraudulent at worse. 

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Re: Educational scam
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2011, 05:51:56 PM »
Actually more OWS people have jobs than the Tea Party

look at this

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Re: Educational scam
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2011, 05:54:57 PM »
Who said one would be guaranteed a good paying job with a college degree?

This is the liberal mindset at it's best, expect to have everything handed to you.  Like grumpy suggested, getting a schlocky degree will land you a schlocky job.  You have to earn that job after you have earned a degree - that's the obvious answer that is clear to everyone except liberals.

And this is the irony with the jobless OWS dirtbags.  They're out there lawlessly disrupting commerce because the protest seems like a cool thing to do but at the end of the day, if they focused their energy to getting a quality education coupled with working hard, they could be earning those huge bonuses that WS execs are being paid.

Nothing is stopping them other than their complacency.

Right. No one said that.

I would disagree, at least in the world of law school.

Law Schools routinely publish employment data that is misleading at best and fraudulent at worse.

Exactly. They all do it not just law schools. Its a big lie.
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Re: Educational scam
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2011, 05:59:03 PM »
I don't know what law schools publish as data nor do I really care.  It's irrelevant.  Like any other high powered degree, if you have a law degree from a reputable school and you couple that with work ethic, you will not fail.

Again, the missing factor that a lot of people don't consider is that you still have to earn your keep.  Getting the best tools Craftsman makes doesn't make you a master mechanic, you actually have to do the job well.

And it doesn't matter what Craftsman says about their tools, it's probably over-inflated.  At the end of the day you still need to do the best job you can do with those tools that you purchased.

This all seems like yet another reason for deadbeat liberals to justify not getting an education and not working hard to earn their keep.

Simple as that.

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Re: Educational scam
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2011, 07:51:27 PM »
well if intelligent debate is in the blood then it is apparent that both you and your cousin are in dire need of a transfusion.....so life has no guarantees, majoring in underwater basket weaving may not merit a hefty salary or any at all, sometimes one has to work for what they want and your cousin exhibits no sense of shame in sharing his intentions to screw the taxpayers.....so just who is scamming who in this occupy my momma's basement tragedy.....

That was said by me.

And I am paying for it with my own taxes, as I stated.  Douche.

Actually my cuz is a lawyer and he does alright.  He has a family.  A house.

And I don't live in my mom's basement.  I rent my aunt's attic.  :D  But it's a huge place and it's clean.  BTW my family is successful, intelligent, and clean.  And liberal.  Just sayin... because you seem to picture me as scrubby.

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Re: Educational scam
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2011, 06:45:10 AM »
I don't know what law schools publish as data nor do I really care.  It's irrelevant.  Like any other high powered degree, if you have a law degree from a reputable school and you couple that with work ethic, you will not fail.

Again, the missing factor that a lot of people don't consider is that you still have to earn your keep.  Getting the best tools Craftsman makes doesn't make you a master mechanic, you actually have to do the job well.

And it doesn't matter what Craftsman says about their tools, it's probably over-inflated.  At the end of the day you still need to do the best job you can do with those tools that you purchased.

This all seems like yet another reason for deadbeat liberals to justify not getting an education and not working hard to earn their keep.

Simple as that.

Actually that is not true about law degrees.  The lawyer market is very over-saturated.  People graduate with very high debt loads after 4 years of undergrad and 3 years of law school.  Over the last three years as many as 50% of law school graduates have gotten any job in the legal field.

Even in good times, only a small percent, perhaps 15% get the high paying jobs.  Average starting salary of $160K in Big Law.

The ones who don't get the Big Law jobs have an average starting salary of $40-75K depending on where they are in the country.  If you have $200K in student loans that doesn't go far.  You still have to pay for rent on top of that. 

And if you are in the bottom 50% and can't get a legal job you cannot pay your student loan debt. 

If student loans were still dischargable in bankruptcy we would not have seen tuition increase so much relevant to the rest of economy, and we would likely not have seen the glut of law graduates. 

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Re: Educational scam
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2011, 09:58:17 AM »
dc is populated with.....lawyers.....and peter, a lawyer has just made the argument that lawyers really aren't that bright or are at least challenged by 3rd grade arithmetic, no wonder we find ourselves $15 trillion in debt.....seriously, clearly whether education, healthcare or housing we have established systems where ones ability to pay is no longer connected to the service or object of desire....this artificially drives prices thru the roof, in the case of housing a scenario where the market predictably implodes while education is dumbed down to cater to as many as possible and worse still we find ourselves not just saturated but "over-saturated" with......lawyers.....
spunk,jgeer you serve as evidence that we have spawned a culture of occupiers, the one shared core principle being that you are owed and of course everybody else is screwed.... 

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Re: Educational scam
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2011, 10:53:47 PM »
dc is populated with.....lawyers.....and peter, a lawyer has just made the argument that lawyers really aren't that bright or are at least challenged by 3rd grade arithmetic, no wonder we find ourselves $15 trillion in debt.....seriously, clearly whether education, healthcare or housing we have established systems where ones ability to pay is no longer connected to the service or object of desire....this artificially drives prices thru the roof, in the case of housing a scenario where the market predictably implodes while education is dumbed down to cater to as many as possible and worse still we find ourselves not just saturated but "over-saturated" with......lawyers.....
spunk,jgeer you serve as evidence that we have spawned a culture of occupiers, the one shared core principle being that you are owed and of course everybody else is screwed....

OMG that was so funny, even though everything I do completely contradicts how you just described me.    ::)

You are a douche.

You think you got liberals pegged and all figured out.

Double douche bag.

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Re: Educational scam
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2011, 11:07:28 PM »
Hey Grumpy.  Which lawyer made the argument that lawyers are not bright or are at least challenged by 3rd grade arithmetic?  Maybe you can provide an example instead of a shoddy opinion.  Only people who are full of themselves talk the way you do.

I guess I don't see you doing much to contrast how you describe other people.

 


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