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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2011, 02:35:23 PM »
Not really proof, the murderers are just trying to make their crime seem less awful even tho it isnt
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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2011, 02:55:38 PM »
The Warriors- Come Out and Play


Drugs, just say no.


More the point of seeing bangers kill someone over no reason at all. Over a piece of ground thats not even theirs! Never was, never will be!
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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2011, 03:12:40 PM »
Not really proof, the murderers are just trying to make their crime seem less awful even tho it isnt

Yea, that makes a random murder seem much less awful.

 ???
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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2011, 03:41:32 PM »
Not really proof, the murderers are just trying to make their crime seem less awful even tho it isnt

Yea, that makes a random murder seem much less awful.

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Because people see a drug killing as less bad than someone being killed for being gay. Drug users people figure have it coming.
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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #25 on: November 22, 2011, 03:58:21 PM »
Not really proof, the murderers are just trying to make their crime seem less awful even tho it isnt

Yea, that makes a random murder seem much less awful.

 ???

Because people see a drug killing as less bad than someone being killed for being gay. Drug users people figure have it coming.

I'm horrified by senseless murders regardless of who they happen to. You?
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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2011, 04:27:05 PM »
Not really proof, the murderers are just trying to make their crime seem less awful even tho it isnt

Yea, that makes a random murder seem much less awful.

 ???

Because people see a drug killing as less bad than someone being killed for being gay. Drug users people figure have it coming.

I'm horrified by senseless murders regardless of who they happen to. You?

You're trying to detract attention away from the cause of this particular murder.  Are you not?  I think that's deplorable, because you are in essence saying that we have nothing to learn from it.  Other than murder is senseless.  Bravo again for that, by the way, that's an excellent observation.

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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2011, 04:55:54 PM »
Not really proof, the murderers are just trying to make their crime seem less awful even tho it isnt

Yea, that makes a random murder seem much less awful.

 ???

Because people see a drug killing as less bad than someone being killed for being gay. Drug users people figure 
have it coming.

I'm horrified by senseless murders regardless of who they happen to. You?

You're trying to detract attention away from the cause of this particular murder.  Are you not?  I think that's deplorable, because you are in essence saying that we have nothing to learn from it.  Other than murder is senseless.  Bravo again for that, by the way, that's an excellent observation.

I don't have squat "to learn" from the brutal murder of anyone. Do you? What, pray tell? That murder is not a good thing?  ???
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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2011, 07:14:58 PM »
This is a really complicated case. For one thing, there's the consideration of charging a child as an adult.

Then there's this:

"Police found Nazi-inspired drawings and artifacts at his house, and a white supremacist expert testified at trial the hate-filled ideology was the reason for the killing."

Was the victim white? If he was black, or white and Jewish, would that change the heinousness of the act? Is one worse than another?

Spunk I am glad you posted this article -- I hadn't heard about it -- and I think it can be a good topic of discussion if we can keep our emotions in check. It's a tragedy and I am certain we all agree on that.
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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2011, 07:28:36 PM »
Indeed, I think we all agree it's awful.
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