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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #40 on: November 22, 2011, 09:17:33 PM »
If you decide it is a good idea to shoot someone in the head for mere homosexual advances you are better off separated from society by either incarceration or execution.

Yes and I think everyone on this board and society would agree with that. Only those like the killer would argue otherwise.
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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #41 on: November 22, 2011, 09:21:51 PM »
If you decide it is a good idea to shoot someone in the head for mere homosexual advances you are better off separated from society by either incarceration or execution.

Agreed
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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #42 on: November 22, 2011, 09:22:37 PM »
If you decide it is a good idea to shoot someone in the head for mere homosexual advances you are better off separated from society by either incarceration or execution.

Yes and I think everyone on this board and society would agree with that. Only those like the killer would argue otherwise.

Who knows what the  heck was going through the killer's mind.
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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #43 on: November 22, 2011, 09:35:47 PM »
Ultimately it doesn't matter.  Their thought processes were so far outside of acceptable behavior that their removal from society becomes the only response. 

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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #44 on: November 22, 2011, 09:38:20 PM »
Ultimately it doesn't matter.  Their thought processes were so far outside of acceptable behavior that their removal from society becomes the only response.

True.
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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #45 on: November 22, 2011, 10:02:19 PM »
My emotions are in check.  I'm appalled that some other people's emotions are barely present.   It pisses me off that a human being is killed, there was a very specific motive for it, and that motive is being completely ignored.  I think if there is cause for me ever to become emotional about something, this would be one.

Maybe people are too afraid of the word "hate-crime" that they want to avoid exploring the motive in question.  Since that is probably the case, I think some people here are jaded.

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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2011, 10:27:02 PM »
My emotions are in check.  I'm appalled that some other people's emotions are barely present.   It pisses me off that a human being is killed, there was a very specific motive for it, and that motive is being completely ignored.  I think if there is cause for me ever to become emotional about something, this would be one.

Maybe people are too afraid of the word "hate-crime" that they want to avoid exploring the motive in question.  Since that is probably the case, I think some people here are jaded.

Spunk, how many murders have there been in the US this year? Honestly, what separates this one from the others? I understand that you personally have a stronger reaction than I might have but I'm not sure why you expect the same from me. That said, you're right I am somewhat jaded and I explained why. I don't like having such tragedies used for propaganda purposes. That is precisely what gay activists are doing and always do when something like this (very rare, BTW) happens. Dude, the vast majority (I'm thinking 99.999 plus % of people who don't like gays for whatever reason would not pull out a pistol and gun someone down in cold blood.
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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2011, 10:29:18 PM »
Secondly, what if the motive was hatred of gays? So what? He should be punished for murder not hatred of gays.
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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2011, 11:15:51 PM »
Who has it worse in this world, D-wang?  Straight people or gay people?  I'll make it easier for you to answer.  Are you happy that you are not gay?

Can you even comprehend the anxiety that you are blessed to not have to deal with?  Are you even capable of appreciating that?  Do you have to worry about people shooting you in the back of the head because you like women?  I hate telling you that you have no ground for argument, but if there was ever a time to say it...

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Re: Plea deal in California gay classmate killing
« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2011, 09:12:52 AM »
Who has it worse in this world, D-wang?  Straight people or gay people?  I'll make it easier for you to answer.  Are you happy that you are not gay?

Can you even comprehend the anxiety that you are blessed to not have to deal with?  Are you even capable of appreciating that?  Do you have to worry about people shooting you in the back of the head because you like women?  I hate telling you that you have no ground for argument, but if there was ever a time to say it...

I can't imagine being anyone but who I am, Spunk. That's not to avoid your question but to say it's nonsensical.

I don't have to deal with crack addiction, prison, a bad neighborhood, divorced parents, and many other negative things, dude. What's your point? Now if you are attempting to say that gays roam this nation in fear of being randomly shot in the back of the head you're delusional.
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