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Re: Deep Thoughts
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2011, 08:38:23 PM »
Certainly it exists. I want to know where among the higher order animals it is observed. I believe some species of birds practice it. Blue Jays. Not sure.

I'm pretty sure almost all sharks do it. I'm not sure what you mean by "higher order animals". Other than humans I'm not sure if any other primates do it but I might be wrong. The wiki article may have further resources.

Sharks? Not that I know of. A couple of rare species is all I can find.
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Re: Deep Thoughts
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2011, 09:26:14 PM »
Certainly it exists. I want to know where among the higher order animals it is observed. I believe some species of birds practice it. Blue Jays. Not sure.


I'm pretty sure almost all sharks do it. I'm not sure what you mean by "higher order animals". Other than humans I'm not sure if any other primates do it but I might be wrong. The wiki article may have further resources.


Sharks? Not that I know of. A couple of rare species is all I can find.


Animals usually avoid cannibalism, but not because of any ethical or moral imperative; although consuming the flesh of one’s species mates offers a useful source of nutrients, it is also likely to contribute to the spread of pathogens, and, therefore disease. However, a number of studies over the past decade have revealed that cannibalism is surprisingly widespread across the animal kingdom. Groups that occasionally eat members of their own species range from lowly protozoa, slime molds, and sea slugs to insects, spiders, fish, reptiles (including dinosaurs; dinosaur bones have been found bearing the teeth marks of their kind), amphibians, birds, and at least 100 species of mammals, such as hamsters, rats, squirrels, bats, seals and sea lions, otters, polar and grizzly bears, lions, tigers, and chimpanzees. Researchers in New Zealand have even found the remains of a giant squid tentacle within the stomach of another giant squid-evidence that it either ate its compatriot, or accidentally ingested itself. Either option, scientists say, is cannibalism.


Seems we both have a point.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/sharkland/animal-cannibalism/1946/
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Re: Deep Thoughts
« Reply #22 on: October 06, 2011, 09:29:30 PM »
Certainly it exists. I want to know where among the higher order animals it is observed. I believe some species of birds practice it. Blue Jays. Not sure.


I'm pretty sure almost all sharks do it. I'm not sure what you mean by "higher order animals". Other than humans I'm not sure if any other primates do it but I might be wrong. The wiki article may have further resources.


Sharks? Not that I know of. A couple of rare species is all I can find.


Animals usually avoid cannibalism, but not because of any ethical or moral imperative; although consuming the flesh of one’s species mates offers a useful source of nutrients, it is also likely to contribute to the spread of pathogens, and, therefore disease. However, a number of studies over the past decade have revealed that cannibalism is surprisingly widespread across the animal kingdom. Groups that occasionally eat members of their own species range from lowly protozoa, slime molds, and sea slugs to insects, spiders, fish, reptiles (including dinosaurs; dinosaur bones have been found bearing the teeth marks of their kind), amphibians, birds, and at least 100 species of mammals, such as hamsters, rats, squirrels, bats, seals and sea lions, otters, polar and grizzly bears, lions, tigers, and chimpanzees. Researchers in New Zealand have even found the remains of a giant squid tentacle within the stomach of another giant squid-evidence that it either ate its compatriot, or accidentally ingested itself. Either option, scientists say, is cannibalism.


Seems we both have a point.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/nature/episodes/sharkland/animal-cannibalism/1946/


That's what I was looking for. Interesting.
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Re: Deep Thoughts
« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2011, 09:33:20 PM »
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Re: Deep Thoughts
« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2011, 10:11:13 PM »
I was looking for a good source too but all I see are bits of information scattered all over. I don't think it's that important to either of us.  :D

I thought you didn't smoke weed? What's with Towely? That's from South Park right?
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Re: Deep Thoughts
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2011, 10:12:51 PM »
I was looking for a good source too but all I see are bits of information scattered all over. I don't think it's that important to either of us.  :D

I thought you didn't smoke weed? What's with Towely? That's from South Park right?

 :D I thought Spunk would comment on that before you would. Well done.

No, I don't smoke these days.

I just felt like with the discussions we were having a weed reference was appropriate.
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Re: Deep Thoughts
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2011, 09:44:38 AM »
I was looking for a good source too but all I see are bits of information scattered all over. I don't think it's that important to either of us.  :D

I thought you didn't smoke weed? What's with Towely? That's from South Park right?


 :D I thought Spunk would comment on that before you would. Well done.

No, I don't smoke these days.

I just felt like with the discussions we were having a weed reference was appropriate.


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Uh, huh.....thats what I thought.  >:(     :-*     O0    >:D

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Re: Deep Thoughts
« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2011, 10:00:45 AM »
 :D If I lived next door to you I'm sure I would smoke a lot more  >:D
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Re: Deep Thoughts
« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2011, 10:52:11 AM »
Species that consistently cannibalize themselves probably wouldn't survive very long either. There are enough evolutionary pressures without adding that one to the mix.
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Re: Deep Thoughts
« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2011, 10:53:40 AM »
Species that consistently cannibalize themselves probably wouldn't survive very long either. There are enough evolutionary pressures without adding that one to the mix.

Black Widow Spiders do it.....but they just eat the males.
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