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Re: Happy 236th Birthday to the United States Marine Corps
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2011, 01:15:19 PM »
I just didn't appreciate Full Metal Jacket. They say it's a great war film.

I thought it was good, nothing great. Platoon was better in my opinion, but it's been a while since I've seen either one.

Platoon was an anti-war propaganda film but it was very well done. Gloria was a fun movie but it certainly isn't a great film.

Yeah, and Platoon wasnt about the Marines either. Same with Apocalypse Now. It also was an Anti-War Movie. IMO it was a good movie. Course I am biased.  ;)

They were both good movies but they were ideologically driven to a large extent. That's undeniable.
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Re: Happy 236th Birthday to the United States Marine Corps
« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2011, 01:20:28 PM »
I was just comparing Platoon and FMJ because I thought they were released around the same time. I didn't realize Platoon was a propaganda flick, I thought it was just saying it sucked being in the Vietnam War which I had no trouble believing as a kid. I think it was my first R movie actually :D, my friend's dad who was a Vietnam Vet took us because he thought it was important to see. Messed us up I think. When I saw it as an adult years later there did seem to be some heavy handed metaphors that weren't very subtle, but like I said I haven't seen either one in a long time. I'll probably watch them again soon now that this thread has reminded me of it.
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Re: Happy 236th Birthday to the United States Marine Corps
« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2011, 01:21:41 PM »
I was just comparing Platoon and FMJ because I thought they were released around the same time. I didn't realize Platoon was a propaganda flick, I thought it was just saying it sucked being in the Vietnam War which I had no trouble believing as a kid. I think it was my first R movie actually :D, my friend's dad who was a Vietnam Vet took us because he thought it was important to see. Messed us up I think. When I saw it as an adult years later there did seem to be some heavy handed metaphors that weren't very subtle, but like I said I haven't seen either one in a long time. I'll probably watch them again soon now that this thread has reminded me of it.

Don't get me wrong. Platoon is a very well made film. Very entertaining but very ideological.
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Re: Happy 236th Birthday to the United States Marine Corps
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2011, 01:24:37 PM »
I was just comparing Platoon and FMJ because I thought they were released around the same time. I didn't realize Platoon was a propaganda flick, I thought it was just saying it sucked being in the Vietnam War which I had no trouble believing as a kid. I think it was my first R movie actually :D, my friend's dad who was a Vietnam Vet took us because he thought it was important to see. Messed us up I think. When I saw it as an adult years later there did seem to be some heavy handed metaphors that weren't very subtle, but like I said I haven't seen either one in a long time. I'll probably watch them again soon now that this thread has reminded me of it.

Don't get me wrong. Platoon is a very well made film. Very entertaining but very ideological.

That's cool. Any specifics?
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Re: Happy 236th Birthday to the United States Marine Corps
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2011, 01:29:39 PM »
Marine Corps "Chess"


Im not a Marine.....But I am Mightier than the Pen, who knows whats comin!  ;)
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Re: Happy 236th Birthday to the United States Marine Corps
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2011, 01:34:28 PM »
United States Marine Corps - circa 1981


1981 Marine Corp Commercial.....pretty plain.
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Re: Happy 236th Birthday to the United States Marine Corps
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2011, 01:42:12 PM »
I was just comparing Platoon and FMJ because I thought they were released around the same time. I didn't realize Platoon was a propaganda flick, I thought it was just saying it sucked being in the Vietnam War which I had no trouble believing as a kid. I think it was my first R movie actually :D, my friend's dad who was a Vietnam Vet took us because he thought it was important to see. Messed us up I think. When I saw it as an adult years later there did seem to be some heavy handed metaphors that weren't very subtle, but like I said I haven't seen either one in a long time. I'll probably watch them again soon now that this thread has reminded me of it.

Don't get me wrong. Platoon is a very well made film. Very entertaining but very ideological.

That's cool. Any specifics?

For example, the films portrays poor morale and a great deal of infighting among the troops but it takes place in 1967 when morale was high. I guess he chose 1967 because our involvement was at its height then or shortly thereafter. Morale only began to deteriorate after we had decided to leave. At that point the overall quality of the troops serving in Vietnam fell precipitously. No surprise. You weren't getting many volunteers anymore and anyone with the means to evade the draft did so. 
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Re: Happy 236th Birthday to the United States Marine Corps
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2011, 01:43:37 PM »
I don't think it was a random decision to depict the war as it was in 1967. It was done on purpose.
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Re: Happy 236th Birthday to the United States Marine Corps
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2011, 01:46:24 PM »
Interesting. I read it is based on Stone's own experiences in Vietnam and he no doubt played with the details. If he was unhappy over there then he probably projected his feelings on to his fellow soldiers both in real life and even more in the movie he made.
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Re: Happy 236th Birthday to the United States Marine Corps
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2011, 01:49:58 PM »
Interesting. I read it is based on Stone's own experiences in Vietnam and he no doubt played with the details. If he was unhappy over there then he probably projected his feelings on to his fellow soldiers both in real life and even more in the movie he made.

Makes sense. Erich Marie Remarque did exactly that with All Quiet on the Western Front.
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