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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/oct/27/occupy-oakland-scott-olsen-surgery?newsfeed=true

Scott Olsen, the Iraq war veteran who suffered serious head injuries after being hit by a projectile fired by police during the Occupy Oakland protests, has woken up and is lucid as he awaits surgery, hospital officials and family members have said.

Olsen, a 24-year-old former US Marine, was struck in the head during anti-Wall Street protests on Tuesday night. He has been upgraded from critical to fair condition.

Olsen "responded with a very large smile" to a visit from his parents, Highland General hospital spokesman Warren Lyons said. "He's able to understand what's going on. He's able to write and hear but has a little difficulty with his speech," Lyons said.

Doctors had not operated on Olsen yet and were waiting to see if swelling in his brain eased, Lyons said.

Olsen's aunt, Kathy Pacconi, told Reuters in an email that her nephew was showing signs of improvement.

What I want to know is why is there not an investigation into the police brutality? Some things happened that night and we have a right to know if the police deliberately injured a protestor.
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How do you know there will be no investigation?
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Of course there will be an investigation. This is just inflammatory rhetoric jgreer.

"Oakland's police chief has pledged a vigorous investigation into a clash between police and Occupy Wall Street protesters that left an Iraq War veteran in critical condition with a fractured skull."

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/10/iraq_vet_injured_in_occupy_oak.html (it's an AP story hosted on that site)
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Of course there will be an investigation. This is just inflammatory rhetoric jgreer.

"Oakland's police chief has pledged a vigorous investigation into a clash between police and Occupy Wall Street protesters that left an Iraq War veteran in critical condition with a fractured skull."

http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2011/10/iraq_vet_injured_in_occupy_oak.html (it's an AP story hosted on that site)


If it turns out that it was fired in either a deliberate or grossly negligent manner than I would support prosecution.
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I would too. Standards need to be upheld. I believe it is an isolated case though, it is not as though there were scores of protesters being beaten by riot police.
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I would too. Standards need to be upheld. I believe it is an isolated case though, it is not as though there were scores of protesters being beaten by riot police.

Exactly. Plus, I don;t even know the circumstances. Why did they fire tear gas at all?
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I would too. Standards need to be upheld. I believe it is an isolated case though, it is not as though there were scores of protesters being beaten by riot police.

Exactly. Plus, I don;t even know the circumstances. Why did they fire tear gas at all?

I don't know, truthfully I haven't been following the story. My understanding that they were told they had to move and they didn't. Tear gas is commonly used and effective in those situations. Just a freak accident I suspect.
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I would too. Standards need to be upheld. I believe it is an isolated case though, it is not as though there were scores of protesters being beaten by riot police.

Exactly. Plus, I don;t even know the circumstances. Why did they fire tear gas at all?

I don't know, truthfully I haven't been following the story. My understanding that they were told they had to move and they didn't. Tear gas is commonly used and effective in those situations. Just a freak accident I suspect.

That's a probable scenario. It's like I said. You run certain risks when you attend these things. Period.
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Yes, attending is a risk and disobeying law enforcement compounds that risk dramatically. You may be within your rights but you're going to lose that physical confrontation.
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Yes, attending is a risk and disobeying law enforcement compounds that risk dramatically. You may be within your rights but you're going to lose that physical confrontation.

 :D Yep.

Obviously, no one is happy the guy was injured but cries of brutality look way overblown.
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