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Commission Reports Torture Used to Quell Unrest in Bahrain
« on: November 23, 2011, 11:50:39 AM »
MANAMA, Bahrain (AP) — The head of a special commission that investigated Bahrain's unrest said Wednesday that authorities used torture and excessive force against detainees arrested in crackdowns on the largest Arab Spring uprising in the Gulf.

Mahmoud Cherif Bassiouni — making the first official comments on report's findings — also said there was no evidence of Iranian links to Bahrain's Shiite-led protests in a clear rebuke Gulf leaders who accuse Tehran of playing a role in the 10-month-old showdown in the Western-allied kingdom.

The study, which was authorized by Bahrain's Sunni rulers in a bid to ease tensions, marks the most comprehensive document on security force actions during any of the revolts that have flared across the Arab world this year.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011/11/22/world/middleeast/AP-ML-Bahrain.html

This is a balancing act since we need Bahrain's cooperation against Iran and we have significant naval forces stationed there.
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Re: Commission Reports Torture Used to Quell Unrest in Bahrain
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2011, 12:37:09 PM »
Security and diplomatic concerns far outweigh any of this universal human rights rap. Time to get real.
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Re: Commission Reports Torture Used to Quell Unrest in Bahrain
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2011, 12:42:37 PM »
Quote from: Mister D on November 23, 2011, 12:37:09 PM
Security and diplomatic concerns far outweigh any of this universal human rights rap. Time to get real.

I hear what you're saying, but I think it is another black mark for this administration and its misguided foreign policy. We can't use this sort of thing to bomb Libya and then pretend that nothing is going on in the other countries. I'm not for isolationism but in this instance we should keep our noses out of all of it. It just makes our government look like hypocrites.
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Re: Commission Reports Torture Used to Quell Unrest in Bahrain
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2011, 12:49:35 PM »
Quote from: Conley on November 23, 2011, 12:42:37 PM
Quote from: Mister D on November 23, 2011, 12:37:09 PM
Security and diplomatic concerns far outweigh any of this universal human rights rap. Time to get real.

I hear what you're saying, but I think it is another black mark for this administration and its misguided foreign policy. We can't use this sort of thing to bomb Libya and then pretend that nothing is going on in the other countries. I'm not for isolationism but in this instance we should keep our noses out of all of it. It just makes our government look like hypocrites.

Thanks, BO!  ::)

We have to be much more careful with this human rights stuff. What now? Should we bomb Bahrain? Ask for sanctions? Throw another ally under the bus fro some BS abstraction like universal human rights?

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Re: Commission Reports Torture Used to Quell Unrest in Bahrain
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2011, 01:46:11 PM »
Quote from: Mister D on November 23, 2011, 12:49:35 PM
Quote from: Conley on November 23, 2011, 12:42:37 PM
Quote from: Mister D on November 23, 2011, 12:37:09 PM
Security and diplomatic concerns far outweigh any of this universal human rights rap. Time to get real.

I hear what you're saying, but I think it is another black mark for this administration and its misguided foreign policy. We can't use this sort of thing to bomb Libya and then pretend that nothing is going on in the other countries. I'm not for isolationism but in this instance we should keep our noses out of all of it. It just makes our government look like hypocrites.

Thanks, BO!  ::)

We have to be much more careful with this human rights stuff. What now? Should we bomb Bahrain? Ask for sanctions? Throw another ally under the bus fro some BS abstraction like universal human rights?

Right. Obviously the solution is to not get involved in lunacy like Libya, Central Africa, and whatever else is coming down the pipe. Obvious to observers but not the brains of the Obama Administration.
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Re: Commission Reports Torture Used to Quell Unrest in Bahrain
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2011, 01:48:49 PM »
Quote from: Conley on November 23, 2011, 01:46:11 PM
Quote from: Mister D on November 23, 2011, 12:49:35 PM
Quote from: Conley on November 23, 2011, 12:42:37 PM
Quote from: Mister D on November 23, 2011, 12:37:09 PM
Security and diplomatic concerns far outweigh any of this universal human rights rap. Time to get real.

I hear what you're saying, but I think it is another black mark for this administration and its misguided foreign policy. We can't use this sort of thing to bomb Libya and then pretend that nothing is going on in the other countries. I'm not for isolationism but in this instance we should keep our noses out of all of it. It just makes our government look like hypocrites.

Thanks, BO!  ::)

We have to be much more careful with this human rights stuff. What now? Should we bomb Bahrain? Ask for sanctions? Throw another ally under the bus fro some BS abstraction like universal human rights?

Right. Obviously the solution is to not get involved in lunacy like Libya, Central Africa, and whatever else is coming down the pipe. Obvious to observers but not the brains of the Obama Administration.

The right thing to do is to champion human rights when you can but never condone their breach. Expediency is not hypocrisy.
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Re: Commission Reports Torture Used to Quell Unrest in Bahrain
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2011, 02:59:22 PM »
So it is with the Sunni.....also Selah of Yemen is transferring over Power. After his acts of genocide and oppression upon the Shia has been revelaed to the World. Plus all know the US is giving Selah 100% total Amnesty for any Crimes against Humanity.

Just like we will give the Saud Amnesty for Mobilizing and crossing the Border into Bahrain.
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Re: Commission Reports Torture Used to Quell Unrest in Bahrain
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2011, 03:16:29 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/yemeni-president-saleh-arrives-saudi-sign-power-transfer-054621245.html

RIYADH (Reuters) - Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh signed a deal Wednesday under which he will step down after 33 years in power and 10 months of protests against his rule that brought the country to the brink of civil war.

Celebrations erupted in the capital Sanaa as Saleh inked the agreement that made him the fourth leader to be forced from power in 10 months of mass protests that have swept the Arab world. Yemenis danced in the streets, set off fireworks and waved flags as Saleh finally agreed to step down.

"I declare the turning of a new page in the history of Yemen," Saudi King Abdullah said in a brief statement before the signing ceremony, also attended by Crown Prince Nayef.

"Saudi Arabia will remain the best supporter for Yemen," the king added.

Hadi would form a new government with the opposition and call an early presidential election within three months.

The United States and the European Union hailed the accord.

In Brussels, EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton said Saleh's signing of the deal should open the way to national reconciliation and a transition to democracy.

U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon told reporters in New York that Saleh had told him in a telephone conversation on Tuesday that he intended to "come to New York to take medical treatment immediately after signing this agreement."

A Yemeni official had said Tuesday that the accord was facing opposition from some senior politicians in Saleh's General People's Congress (GPC).....snip~

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Re: Commission Reports Torture Used to Quell Unrest in Bahrain
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2011, 03:36:18 PM »
Wow, big news. Worthy of a new thread says me.  ;D
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Re: Commission Reports Torture Used to Quell Unrest in Bahrain
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2011, 03:56:42 PM »
Selah must need more treatment after getting his Azz lit up.....either way he gets Amnesty. Cuz he is Sunni. Course the Saud will heap praise upon them. They did use to own Yemen and Bahrain.
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