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Offline Mister D

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Why Does America Defend the Weak and Small?
« on: November 17, 2011, 01:30:35 PM »
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Two days later, in one of the most bizarre op-eds published by the New York Times in recent memory, Paul Kane suggested that the United States could literally sell out its support for democratic Taiwan for about $1 trillion. He argued that the Chinese might be so thankful to us for letting them get their hands on the island that they might forgive much of what we owe them.

So why does the United States take risks in guaranteeing the security of countries such as Israel and Taiwan? Surely the smart money — and most of the world — bets on their richer enemies. The Arab Middle East has oil, hundreds of millions of people, and lots of dangerous radical-Islamic terrorists. China is more than one billion strong, with the fastest-growing economy in the world.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/283341/why-does-america-defend-weak-and-small-victor-davis-hanson
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Re: Why Does America Defend the Weak and Small?
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 01:52:11 PM »
Because there is more to life than money
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Re: Why Does America Defend the Weak and Small?
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 01:53:51 PM »
Well didnt Perry just state if he was Elected President he would stop ALL Foreign Aid? Then this guy cuts this article after Obama comes out and states the US does not fear China.

My question is why would you even talk in those type of terms diplomatically or even as a leader in front of the world. is this some form of appeasement due to cracking the whip on thme about their the currency devaluation?
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Re: Why Does America Defend the Weak and Small?
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2011, 01:59:03 PM »
Quote from: Midwest Media Critic on November 17, 2011, 01:53:51 PM
Well didnt Perry just state if he was Elected President he would stop ALL Foreign Aid? Then this guy cuts this article after Obama comes out and states the US does not fear China.

My question is why would you even talk in those type of terms diplomatically or even as a leader in front of the world. is this some form of appeasement due to cracking the whip on thme about their the currency devaluation?

Perry wouldn't do that IMO, but it's irrelevant because he'll never be POTUS. He can say anything he wants now...

What's wrong with Obama saying he doesn't fear China? Do you have the exact quote...It was about currency?
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Re: Why Does America Defend the Weak and Small?
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2011, 02:02:06 PM »
Quote from: Midwest Media Critic on November 17, 2011, 01:53:51 PM
Well didnt Perry just state if he was Elected President he would stop ALL Foreign Aid? Then this guy cuts this article after Obama comes out and states the US does not fear China.

My question is why would you even talk in those type of terms diplomatically or even as a leader in front of the world. is this some form of appeasement due to cracking the whip on thme about their the currency devaluation?
if you are referring to his remarks in the recent national security debate, then no son he did not.....he said that foreign aid would start at zero and implied that it would be merit based.....i would simply state that this nation should not give foreign aid to any nation where the govt is not representative of the people and of course in basic agreement with our values and in compliance with our national security interests.....
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Re: Why Does America Defend the Weak and Small?
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2011, 02:08:21 PM »
Quote from: Conley on November 17, 2011, 01:59:03 PM
Quote from: Midwest Media Critic on November 17, 2011, 01:53:51 PM
Well didnt Perry just state if he was Elected President he would stop ALL Foreign Aid? Then this guy cuts this article after Obama comes out and states the US does not fear China.

My question is why would you even talk in those type of terms diplomatically or even as a leader in front of the world. is this some form of appeasement due to cracking the whip on thme about their the currency devaluation?


Perry wouldn't do that IMO, but it's irrelevant because he'll never be POTUS. He can say anything he wants now...

What's wrong with Obama saying he doesn't fear China? Do you have the exact quote...It was about currency?


Well one if you don't fear sombody.....then you dont walk around talking about that you dont fear them. You walk about as if that thought does not exist. Even tho it may. The Chinese will view this as weakness. But technically are concerned about our expansion into the South China Sea.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-insists-us-does-not-fear-china-080628319.html

CANBERRA, Australia (AP) — President Barack Obama insisted Wednesday that the United States does not fear China, even as he announced a new security agreement with Australia that is widely viewed as a response to Beijing's growing aggressiveness.

China responded swiftly, warning that an expanded U.S. military footprint in Australia may not be appropriate and deserved greater scrutiny.....snip~



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Re: Why Does America Defend the Weak and Small?
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2011, 02:14:37 PM »
It looks like he said this in response to a question:

"I think the notion that we fear China is mistaken. The notion that we're looking to exclude China is mistaken," he said."
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Re: Why Does America Defend the Weak and Small?
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2011, 02:23:07 PM »
Quote from: Conley on November 17, 2011, 02:14:37 PM
It looks like he said this in response to a question:

"I think the notion that we fear China is mistaken. The notion that we're looking to exclude China is mistaken," he said."

Yeah and?
"It also allows us to meet the demands of a lot of partners in the region that want to feel that they're getting the training, they're getting the exercises, and that we have the presence that's necessary to maintain the security architecture in the region," Obama said.....snip~

He also said that. If we did not fear then there would be no reason for us to Maintain the security architecture for that region.
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Re: Why Does America Defend the Weak and Small?
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2011, 02:34:40 PM »
 ??? Maintaining security doesn't mean fear IMO...China is a threat. I don't think any of what he said is a surprise to anyone, and I don't think the talk means much. It's the actions that matter.
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Re: Why Does America Defend the Weak and Small?
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2011, 03:01:03 PM »
Quote from: Conley on November 17, 2011, 02:34:40 PM
??? Maintaining security doesn't mean fear IMO...China is a threat. I don't think any of what he said is a surprise to anyone, and I don't think the talk means much. It's the actions that matter.

Why are they our enemy or something. One only excludes enemies. Far as I know everyone keeps saying they are not our enemy. One doesnt borrow from ones enemy. Or at least they are not suppose to.
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